1931 trial rifle question

so..its missing the forestock and magazine ..still has the scope mount..i need a fair as is value...photos available to interested parties

You'll need to pics to get any reasonable estimate... :)

If you don't know how, email them to me at badger@milsurps.com and I'll add them to this thread for you ..

Regards, :cheers:
Doug

ps: this is an informational forum, not the WTS (Want to Sell) area ... ;)

If it completely original and in decent condition except for the forend and magazine, maybe $3000. to $4000. at today's rates.

If is a scrubbed ex-Indian with a mismatching bolt, changed barrel, trigger guard, buggered pads, wrong backsight and wrong butt, then maybe $500. max

Or somewhere in between...photos will be necessary to be more precise than that.

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The only true price for your rifle is the on-the-day-value at auction. Anything else is sheer guesswork

I'm seeing a mid-war slab-sided cocking piece and fabricated trigger guard, so it's definitely missing some of the early parts. Luckily, those bits are not too difficult to source. The buttstock doesn't look original, or if it is, the cheek piece was removed.

As a project gun, I'm thinking $1000-1500 as depicted if it were to go up on Gunbroker in the states.

I think it'll be difficult to return to standard...there's not much left. The parts pile will be huge...

|And so will the bill BAR (your thread above.....)

If a rifle came into our Armourers shop like that (it wouldn't in real life of course unless you were doing a favour for someone!) the Armourer Sergeant would give it the once over and give it to a good Ammourer to simply get on with, with the promise of a range day with the sniper section. He wouldn't concern himself with the niceties or rarities of it being a this that and the other. Nope. he'd just treat it as another well used and old No4T. It's go back to a base workshop to be parkerised/rustproofed and then he'd set about it.

In a couple of days it'd go back to the Armoury/sniper, pristine, just like it'd left the factory - not in 1931 or whatever but, say, 1945. He wouldn't concern himself with searching for special parts. Nope, it'd be just like every other No4T, just as accurate and just as good at killing as the others were too.

And do you know what.................? I wouldn't mind betting that 90% of every other 'totally original' trials based No4T was just the same when it left the Army via the big Ordnance sales in the 50's and 60's.

Just my 2c's worth

Well I like it better than the 'trial's in fulton's originally discussed here. Links to rifle don't work alas - maybe they've sold it!

The OP's rifle would certainly sell for a good deal more in blighty I would think even minus the parts apart from the barrelled action.

I think Peter's approach would be dead right for this rifle. There are simply too many parts missing to rebuild it in Trials trim, but it is still potentially quite valuable & desirable all the same, even rebuilt in shall we say 'late WW2 configuration'. This obviates the anguish of trying to find all the little diddley bits with efd examiner's marks on them. If rebuilt carefully it will still be worth money.

ATB