I must have been in a time warp or missed this legislation completely, am I alone??? :madsmile:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/20...0150010_en.pdf
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I must have been in a time warp or missed this legislation completely, am I alone??? :madsmile:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/20...0150010_en.pdf
Must be where our clowns got their ideas...
Sounds even more like we need to have a brick party at Hadrians Wall ASAP before they get to our lot here in England to start looking at it.
Oh well I am so glad Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn left me their catapults in thier wills :lol::lol:
Okay, I admit it. I'm a fekkin' eedjit. I read 'Air Weapons Act' and instantly thought it was for missiles, drones and other airborne vehicles carrying some form of ordnance. Regulating air rifles, pellet guns and BB guns?
Spare me Lord!
Paul,
Its fact and Law north of the border, and for no answerable or rational reason either!
It's been mentioned in Gun Mart periodically but I get the sense that the Police are scratching their heads a bit on how they are going to enforce it, north of the border.
Quote:
(4) But the expression does not include—
(a) an air weapon which is not a firearm (within the meaning of section 57(1) of the 1968 Act),
(b) an air weapon (within the meaning of section 1(3)(b) of the 1968 Act)—
(i) which is not capable of discharging a missile with kinetic energy of more than one joule as measured at the muzzle of the weapon, or
Ok, can someone tell me what “air weapon” missile has less energy than a medium size tomato dropped from three feet?
Must be small tomato dropped from three feet?
Indeed it is and by parliamentary act no less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gil Boyd
One wonders what will be next. A possibility is 'The Offensive Culinary Instruments Act' affecting the possession, use, and prohibition of such dangerous instruments as soup ladles, basting brushes, egg lifters, and the deadliest of all, wooden spoons in the hands of angry housewives and mothers. After all, society must be protected from itself at all costs.
You'll shoot your eye out kid.
After extensive research, I found an air weapon that has less than one joule of kinetic energy measured at the muzzle and it’s an A-Salt weapon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRgjLXrUebw
At £75 for the licence and £48 for renewal, one has to wonder if it's just another way of raising money in a stealth tax. Apparently you also have to provide a "good reason" on the licence application for wanting to own an airgun in Scotland. I can imagine that there will be all manner of arguments and problems in deciding what exactly is a "good reason" and what is not.
Wow, a BB gun costs a lot less than the license.
I can't find anything as to why this was passed. It does not mention as to whether the air rifle must not exceed 12 foot pounds or air pistols 6 foot pounds, or anything of that technical commonsense.......it affects ALL air weapons held north of the border in Scotland.
There has to be a link to the reason why they pursued this course somewhere in recent history one thinks.
It is said it is easier to get a Shotgun certificate in the north opposed to an air weapon one:
https://basc.org.uk/basc-scotland/ai...ked-questions/
It was alleged that a few people "misbehaved" themselves and so everyone had to suffer the consequences.
This COULD be so that by next year, the detection rate for 'firearms' offences in bonnie Jockland will have sky rocketed and they can say to those South of the border how simple it is to detect and prosecute for firearms offences if you really try. However, it is already beeing mooted that this will eventually become one of those laws that the legal profession call LUCS. Laws of Unforseen Consequences - that weren't clearly thought through before hand.
Is there a very low crime rate north of the border for the police to be able to spend time and effort detecting illegal airgun ownership in Scotland?
Air rifles / pistols are deemed to be 'firearms' under New Jersey law. This replaces the 'banned' category they were in prior to 1966 when someone pointed out to the boys in Trenton that federal law prevents banning air guns. You need a Firearms Purchaser I.D card to buy an air rifle and a Permit to Purchase a Handgun (no more than two a month) for an air pistol. All restrictions on transporting a handgun outside of your home apply. :eek:
Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying10uk
The reason for it was that The Scottish National Party (as the Scottish Government) pledged to introduce this following a tragic incident in 2005 involving the death of a 2 year old boy. It's to "help reduce air weapon misuse throughout Scotland". Hmmmm....
As a the holder of a firearms certificate (FAC) I don't need to have a separate Airgun certificate until my FAC comes up for renewal. The crazy thing is my firearms renewal is going to cost me only £62 which will include an inspection of my security arrangements etc. I will then have to apply for an "Air Weapon Certificate" at a cost of £72, which doesn't come with the same requirements.
The naming speaks volumes as to the attitude of the powers that be. My airguns are not "weapons" and of course I've no intention of using them as such.
My grown up children live South of the Border so I can see them getting gifts of antique BSA air rifles this Christmas (for which they won't need a licence) and I might just treat myself to another "proper" rifle - it's far easier......[emoji1]
Kev,
How ridiculous is that. An air weapon licence costs more than an FAC??
It looks from the forms that the same and extra checks apply to air weapons. I think I side here with Peter...........it could not have been thought out properly. They have more crime likely to be committed from realistic looking Airsoft weapons than air guns IMHO.
I held an 8mm blank firing Glock the other day, same weight, markings rounds, albeit blanks................now that is another totally "grey" area not even mentioned.
When they go off, they sound like the real thing and if you pointed it at the wrong people it would get you shot if faced by Armed Police for example, but again so would an air pistol!!
How are the guys supposed to know what they are facing, unless they have the standard issue Home Office Ouija board, but a blank firer does look the business, ejecting and sounding like the real thing.
It does look like they failed to get expert advice on this occasion!!
Are there any Scottish Forum members who have applied for the Air Weapon licence and received the nice little extra freebie that may or may not go with application process? Before anyone asks what the freebie is, according to what I've read online, the police are entitled to pay you a "home visit" if they consider it necessary to help them decide whether or not a licence should be granted. Presumably they are not going to drop by for just a coffee and make small talk?
Must have a lot more Police than we do down south then!!
This whole fiasco was brought about by Kenny MacAskill (Kenny MacAskill - Wikipedia) one of the most useless politicians ever elected. A yobbo out on parole decided to shoot at firemen called to a fire near the yobbos tower block. Yobbo hit and killed a two year old child (The only innocent person in this whole sorry saga) Yobbo was high on drugs. The parents of the two year old were drug dealers. This happened BEFORE the independence referendum and the SNP tactic at the time was to blame Westminster for everything. So this death was made out to be the fault of Westminster for not controlling airguns. 'Kenny' now rides to the rescue promising that the SNP would solve the problem with licensing. The Police were aghast at the thought BUT the then Chief Constable of the newly formed 'Police Scotland' made up of an amalgamation of nine separate forces was a political arselicker. When the proposal was published 'Kenny' said it was up for consultation but that licensing would happen. Kenny I am delighted to say was sacked by Nicola Sturgeon as his Police Scotland idea had caused all sorts of problems, the Chief Constable retired early.
Unfortunately the SNP can NEVER admit to any form of mistake / cock up so the legislation went ahead. as I had a valid FAC I was able to keep my airguns and take in airguns up to 31st Dec 2016. I was also able to get an airgun license for £5.
We now have he situation that if you are a UK FAC holder you can bring your guns to Scotland but if you bring a .177 airpistol you will need to get a Visitors Permit as if you were an Italian bring a shotgun to the U.K.
There are far too many lawyers in both the Scottish and U.K. parliaments in the main they are there as they can't cut it as lawyers so they become politicians with no idea of the real world but with a desire to legislate for everything. Instead of using existing law to get criminals they just pass more and more laws. T. Blair has a lot to answer for in this respect.
Robert do you have any sort of idea if most airgun owners in Scotland now have a licence for them or do you think that there are still significant numbers of airguns in Scotland unlicensed?
A license for airguns?
So much for Scotland the Brave! :move eek:
Large numbers of people have either [i] never heard about it or [ii] decided to ignore it anyway. It wasn't well publicised. Far fewer licences were taken out than the estimates.