Picked up a Malayan girl? Green Enfield no5.

Found one of my grail rifles.

Interesting late manufacture Fazakerley No5 MK 1 made in March of 1947. Judging by the markings, this is a pre-68 import. All parts match, including magazine (if only I had a matching bayonet). Metal is in good condition, minus a little paint. The wood is in fair condition, with some oil rot and a lot of darkening. I plan on restoring the wood. I think it is salvageable. I am curious as to the meaning of the stock paint. I've never seen another like it. If it is significant, I will forgo the stock restoration. No idea on how it shoots. I have some 1945 Radway Green MK7 that I plan on trying in it shortly.

Please pardon the M44. She snuck in.

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The green paint is tropical anti rust.

I figured this, which is why I would guess the rifle has been to British Malaya. The white paint on the stock is what baffles me.

Post independence Malay service perhaps?? I have quite a few surplus Lithgow L1A1 butts that came from Malay contract rifles with very similar markings.

Repaired 6/56 - June 1956. We used to stamp this into the butt along with the workshop details, such as FWM, 13FW, 2IW or 40BW

I wouldn't do anything with it, it's all part of its history.

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Originally Posted by gsimmons

I wouldn't do anything with it, it's all part of its history.

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Agreed, I've never seen a No5 retaining its jungle green, resist the urge to restore, keep her as she is, shoot and enjoy..

Agreed, she looks pretty good as is. Never mind the matched number bayonet, they were only done after the fact. Peter didn't stamp them for the units...any bayonet will do.

When Castle Armoury, a business in Vancouver BC was cleared out 25 or so years ago there were quite a few green painted No5 barreled receivers in the hundreds of stripped left overs.

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

Repaired 6/56 - June 1956. We used to stamp this into the butt along with the workshop details, such as FWM, 13FW, 2IW or 40BW

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What sort of repairs were performed? I know you don't know for this particular rifle. I am curious because I do intend to shoot it.

I found a BW stamp under the neck of the buttstock where the serial number is supposed to be. So I guess it isn't all matching afterall.

At this point it probably will not be getting a restoration.

Thank you for your help.

We did all sorts of repairs. From a simple repair or replacement of a damaged butt plate or pad to a complete nuts and bolts factory repair at Base Workshop level. But at Base workshop, they went out like new. No khaki paint, totally rebuilt, phosphate and black oven bake paint. Woodwork was subject to constant wet/dry, hot and even hotter. It was relentless

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Originally Posted by Surpmil

When Castle Armoury, a business in Vancouver BC was cleared out 25 or so years ago

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I was in there about 25 years back or so...what a place in it's hayday.

Well, this one was either green painted after the repair or was never brought to a base workshop. There is no parkerizing on it. Just green paint and black oxide. Is there a current source for the green paint?

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Is there a current source for the green paint?

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The hardware store?

It was probably overpainted green after it'd been through the Base workshop. The black oxide you speak of will be phosphate and paint. On ops they just sploshed them over in khaki/mid bronze green vehicle paint as a general rule with a few dobs of yellow sploshed on for good measure.

Didn't last long on anything. If ever there was a location in this world of ours, where you could test anything to destruction and be assurred if it survived it must be manufactured to a high standard, thats the jungle environment.Its one extreme to the other, soaring heat to downpours from nowhere, to bugs that eat absolutely anything including IR paint. To use a weapon in that environment it was a constant cleaning regime..........a real pain!

If you have ever seen a plane that has has crashed and been in a jungle location for a number of years, you will see bear wire where there once was covering, paint on fuselages that could withstand freezing temperature.............gone eaten by various indestructable mites!
Amazing and very dangerous environment.
Only akin to taking your pet rabbit to a greyhound dogshow:lol:

Only akin to taking your pet rabbit to a greyhound dog show.

That cost me a mouth full of wine severe choking and a long fit of laughter.

Shoots fine other than the RG '45 is almost 100% "click-bang". Recoil is not nearly as bad as people have made out. Not much worse than a short FAL or M1A. Rear of forearm is cracked all the way through in front of the metal band. Need to find or make a replacement for shooting.

I don't understand where your fore-end is cracked from and to but no need to find a replacement or find a good used one. It will be a very simple repair. Then insert a couple of oak pegs to reinforce it and make good. Done it a thousand times. Do it properly as detailed elsewhere here somewhere and it will outlast you and your kids

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Rear of forearm is cracked all the way through in front of the metal band.

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Do you mean at the back? Through the draws?

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Do you mean at the back? Through the draws?

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Yes. Vertically.

OK then...I think that's the same fix Peter suggested. There are threads here reference that...

I just got a 4/45 Frazakerley Jungle carbine here in Eastern NC. There is some rust and pitting but for 200.00 I could not pass it up. I think it will clean up pretty well. I missed a no 1 mk3 for the same price with matching nos. I got it about two hours ago.

Love to see it if you would...

They all succumbed to the dreaded rust over there. We found that once you have it PROPERLY de-rusted/bead blasted then phosphated and painted in a hard baked paint it should last for 50 years

I would love to send pics. of my new rifle but cannot figure how to do so.

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I would love to send pics.

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I'm sending my email address by PM, you can send me pics and I'll post them for you if you like.

Cant add much to this thread except to say that mine is a 5/46 Fazakerly, and is also a Malayan girl.

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5/46 Fazakerly,

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Nice looking carbine, wonder if Peter had hands on this one?

Can someone tell me why it is so complicated to post a picture? I have been all over this site and can not find out how to send a picture. I went to user control panel, it said to click on pictures and albums link but there is not pictures and albums link. I see some good pics. so it cannot be that hard.

You need to host it on an external site. I use imgur. Then you use the forum mark-up code [IMG].

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Can someone tell me why it is so complicated to post a picture? I have been all over this site and can not find out how to send a picture. I went to user control panel, it said to click on pictures and albums link but there is not pictures and albums link. I see some good pics. so it cannot be that hard.

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If you want to upload a photo that's stored on your computer....

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