im in the midwest, and ammo here is practically non-existent! found some S&B the other day for 32$ a box! didnt buy it, just wondered how the rest of the country was doing? comments/replys? :sos:
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im in the midwest, and ammo here is practically non-existent! found some S&B the other day for 32$ a box! didnt buy it, just wondered how the rest of the country was doing? comments/replys? :sos:
West, is the same. I did pick up 3 cases of 45 acp Blazer last week for $17.99 a box.
stores ive been to around here havent found anything in 3006 or 30 carbine.
Was at Cabela's today picking up PRIMERS (got lucky on a phone call) and they had about 10 boxes of Wolf in stock for $17.99 a box. Of course I didn't buy them because I respect my weapons too much to break an extractor (that is what the primers are for anyway!). I haven't seen any other 30 carb on the shelves around the DFW area since I bought the last two boxes at a Wally World about 3 months ago. That was Remington and it was $25.99 a box then. I almost didnt buy it but the sporting dept guy knew me and said that those two boxes were the last for a long while.
But in the last two weeks I have scored primers, 2400 and even some unfired de-miled brass on line! Got a new War Baby due to be delivered next month (?) and I plan on feeding it well when it gets here.
I wonder how much of this Carbine ammo shortage is due to horders and how much is due to the large number of USGI being sold by CMP. Everyone wants to shoot what they are buying....
Saw some 30 carbine at the Walmart in Troy NY - $48 a box of 50.
Didn't buy it- had just taken delivery of 1350 rds of 30 cal for about $925 shipped.
Well, Tired Retired I think most of it is probably hoarding. We don't need tea leaves to tell us what Biden, Pelosi, Obama, Holder and the rest of them have in mind for private ownership of firearms in America. The problem for me is that I have no way of knowing how much ammo I need to continue shooting at my present rate. A 4 year supply? I fear that if Obama wins a second term, we will NEVER get rid of him. In that scary event, our firearms will certainly be confiscated. Sorry to sound so grim and pray that I am wrong.
Best...Ed
Well stores around here in Rhode Island have just about anything you want.
One shop has cases of .233, .308,7.62X39,7.62X54 and 30.06 stacked on the floor.It's not cheap but he has tons.Other stores in the area also have an decent supply.Powder and bullets are also everywhere with the exception of primers. They are around you just have to look or ask for them.
Ten or twelve years ago at auction I bought a case of Winchester .30 carbine ammo for $60.00. Sure glad I did!
Am casting bullets and reloading for the .30 Carbine for little more than .22 rimfire ammo. It's the only way to go for the Carbine, as ammo supplies are only going to get worse and more expensive.
Don
My local Walmart in North Fort Worth Texas has gone so far as to peel off the shelf stickers that mark where the 30 Carbine ammo should go.
The mgr said that since they can't get it, they may as well free up the space. Of course, there wasn't a whole lot of stuff to fill up the new empty space......
phil441,
I visited a friend in Austin two years ago. Have you been to Fredericksburg? It's up north of you. There is a real nice War Museum there. It took me over 4hours to go through it. One display has a Carbine. Worth the time, cost is low. Also there is a tribute to Admiral Nimitz born there.
Nice place to visit, wish I hadn't done it in August. HOT and HUMID.
Phil, did you explain that not carrying .30 Carbine is considered sacrilege? Next they will be removing the stickers for .45 ACP!!!!!
Jim, actually I have been to Fredericksburg, a coupla hundred miles south of here, but I was with a motorcycle group which was concentrating on eating and drinking from one end of town to the other.
Good food and drink, but didn't get much sightseeing done. I rode by the Nimitz museum and swore that next time I visited, I'd spend some time there.... I haven't been back since... but someday........
And yes, August can be brutal in the Hill Country.
Phil
Ed, I did mention to the Ammo mgrs that they probably had a customer base out here. They had no idea what .30 Cal Carbine was for.
I got nice smiles below totally blank looks.
I think this store is a write-off.
Phil
I was at Bass Pro Shops in Maryland a few days ago and they had a few boxes of Remington 30 Cal Carbine ammo. The price was around $24/50 rounds.
Saw a box of 25-20, 50 rounds, marked at $69.99. This was at a retail shop that was NOT gouging, AFAIK.Quote:
Originally Posted by tator62
I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area (yes Calif) and it is possible to find .38 Special, 9mm or .30 Carbine at any store. At the last local gun show,vendors had canceled for lack of ammo to sell. Local reloaders cannot find a supply ob bullets or primers. Wonder when this problem will resolve????
Academy in Birmingham, 39.95 a box of 50...Remington
One box missing....
I screwed up, meant to say IMPOSSIBLE to find ammo here. Sorry about that.
[QUOTE= ...they had about 10 boxes of Wolf in stock for $17.99 a box. Of course I didn't buy them because I respect my weapons too much to break an extractor... [/QUOTE]
Didn't the U.S. military make some steel-cased carbine ammo in WW2? HAVE there been reports of broken extractors with Wolf? I have run maybe 500 rds through my .45's within the past 2-3 years; no problems. Tried the steel Wolf '06 in an '03 and THAT was a bad deal; had to hammer the bolt open with the heel of my hand...
75B,
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But we got the meaning of it. Otherwise you would have seen a stream of out-of-state license plates in the area......
Phil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff Murphey
Griff, I recall reading two posts in the last six months of carbine owners who stated that they had suffered broken extractors on the steel cases... now, I do frequent about 6 boards and I am the 1st to say that I can not remember the names of the posters, so everyone PLEASE don't flame my old senile memory. Yes, it could have been caused by the steel cases or those extractors could have been worn in the first place. Yes, I do remember reading somewhere that in WWII someone tried using steel to save on brass, but I seem to remember the article mentioned larger guns, like artillery and ship guns (????).. sorry, senile attack again.
My hesitation in using steel cases comes from several points -
1) the carbine bolt was developed and tested (including hardening testing) to a standard for the softer brass cases. I do subscribe to the belief that the Russian's AK-47 standard of firearms production (and its ammo) is a bit diiferent than our American standards.
2) Several close friends who have shot some of the wolf products stated that the lacquir coating and dirty powder does make a mess of things.
3) I don't want to waste my ammo funds on buying ammo whose cases I can not reload (I can reload .30 carbine soft points for $11.00 a box of 50).
4) War babys are at least 64 years old and saw some hard service at times. I want mine to last long enough to pass on to grandkids and their grandkids. Why take an unnecessary chance on a particular ammo when other options are still available?
Personal choice, not for everyone... but thats why America is great!
Phil441,
Thanks for that information. Appreciate it.
Tim
The idea of steel cased ammo in the carbine is not over all a good one. The carbine was never designed for a steel case. The extractors do chip and break on brass cased ammo and it's softer then steel. The military did experiment and then produce steel cased 30 carbine ammo BUT because of problems with it they made it secondary use only. Not for use in combat and only for training in the US. The Marines didn't even approve it for training till 1946. The best thing is to not use it if at all possible and if you do then you should have a type 3 extractor in your bolt and another one as a spare. The new president of Russia about 6 months ago signed an order to remove all quality control from the production of all exported ammo made in Russia. This is to speed up production lines as the Russians have some huge contracts for ammo from several countries so anything being made there has no inspection process what so ever and includes all Russian made ammo coming into the US too. This information comes from the US State Dept. and was sent out to all Federal agencies to inform their own people who might use new Russian made ammo as a warning. So buyer beware.
Found some Federal American Eagle for $18.95 a box last month. Of course when I walked out the shelf was empty! :) Manager said they might have more coming in later this month.
BTW: Montgomery, AL.
IMHO that Federal American Eagle ammo is good stuff. Couple of years ago I could get it for $14 box. My carbines shoot well with it. When I went to buy more recently it was $25/box:(...and it sold out at that price.
In my area of Northern Ohio the local Wally worlds do have some .30 carbine.
$48.50 abox I had one other source for a while of S&B for $24.50. I finally got my CMP order of 500 rounds. What I shoot I reload and we developed a nice hard cast bullet that shoots real well. We took a Lee C-312-155 2R 7.62X39 155 grain mold and milled it down to the bottom of the last gas check groove to make it approx 121 grains and I size them to .308 and it shoots real well. Not much of a lube groove left so you might want to tumble lube them instead. At 50 I kept 12 of 15 in a 3" circle with no feed or extraction problems.
Sportsman's Guide has S & B available for order at $19.47 ($18.50 if you are a member of their Buyer's Club) a box, supposedly available for delivery July 20. http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/net/....aspx?a=148320
I would order some but I already have gobs of it (some of it ordered from Sportsman's Guide, some from Cabela's). It's excellent ammo.
Here in Nevada most ammo is getting tough to come by. Wanted a box of CCI large rifle primers, still can't find any. Guess I have enough ammo stored, but this shortage has got me to stop most target trips. Local Walmart in Carson has been out of .22 for some time. When the 9mm comes in, it lasts a hour on the shelf. Lesson learned by all of this is to keep more reloading supplies in stock. Can't help but wonder when the shortages are going to end.
Chris
All calibers are starting to get inb short supply here on Long Island N.Y. The walmarts in this county do not even sell ammo. Waiting for my case of Agula to come from CMP so i can shoot my carbine.
I will tell you a little about ammo.
No.1 I think I have some USGI steel cased carbine ammo somewhere, I would not even shoot that in my carbine.
No.2 I worked at a brand new indoor range about 8 years back.11 stalls indoor, Prism training system state of the art HEPA air system. The place is open 3 months and the air system starts to fail.$2500 in filters it is up and running.3 Months go past again $2500 in filters. After $10,000 in filters for the first year.We figured it out.Outlaw the ammo in black steel cases. Year two total filter bill $2500.
I have 500+ surplus GI bullets, primers, and a good bit of W296, but can't find .30 carbine brass anywhere. I've already loaded all the brass I have. Midway says "no backorder" on Win and Rem brass, and claims to have Magtech coming, but the date has been extended over and over. I don't think anyone is making it; they're too busy cranking out .223 and 9mm....
I just came back from a road trip to Yellowstone. Went through 6 states and checked at least 3 to 5 gun stores or shops in each state. Calif, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyo. I did not see any .30 carbine ammo. and only three guns all import marked from $500 to $800