Could not get any closer to these at the air show. I suspect the Mid-Atlantic Museum might try to restore them.
Is this the Flying Boxcar?
Thanks,
Louis of PA
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Could not get any closer to these at the air show. I suspect the Mid-Atlantic Museum might try to restore them.
Is this the Flying Boxcar?
Thanks,
Louis of PA
If so, I think that was our first combat jet, rushed into production at the beginning of the Korean War. Does anyone know?
a C-119 Flying Boxcar, alright:
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircr...ircraft_id=379
and a P-80/F-80 (AAF/USAF designations):
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircr...aircraft_id=86
Disclaimer: Being a sailor-type, I COULD be wrong on this....:yikes:
I believe the fighter to be an F84. If the wings are swept back, it could also be an F86 but from the angle the photo was taken, it seems the cockpit to be to far back for an F86.
C-119 and an F-84....helps to have been at the Air Force Museum Friday!
Yes. It could be the less common C-82, but is probably a C-119. BTW, a C-82 was used in the Jimmy Stewart version of "Flight of the Phoenix".Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis of PA
BTW, can't tell about the jet from the photo, but F-84 seems likely.
Nope! The C-82 had more rounded vertical stabilizers and lacked the large fillet up the booms. It also had a rounded rear fuselage rather than the horizontally split/ramp found in the C-119.
Like I said, I was looking at both of them Friday at the AFM!
Wright R-3350's!Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis of PA
There were two versions of wing configurations on the F84.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnMOhio
The early version wing was straight. The later version was swept.
Hard to tell for the weeds and what looks like severe damage to the left wing.
Festus
Not really that tough! The swept-wing F-84F also had a different swept-back vertical tail than the straight-wing F-84 B-G. Based on the tail, the photo is of a straight-wing F-84 B-G.Quote:
Originally Posted by Festus
Like I said.....looking at both just a few days ago is a big help!
Engines are Curtis Wright turbo compounds.
According to their website:
1946 Republic P-84B "Thunderjet" 46-666 219
1953 Fairchild C-119F "Boxcar" Bu 131677 10844 N175ML
http://www.maam.org/aircraft.htm
Which is a Wright R-3350-89.Quote:
Originally Posted by larrynb25
C-119. I flew in one many years ago. FYI. The McChord AFB Museum has a C-82 that was flown from Alaska and retored to represent the C-82s that had been assigned to the Wing. By the positioning of the horizontal stabilizer the other looks like an F-84.
If memory serves me correctly the RF84F was the recce version of the Thunderjet, known colloquially as the "Thunderflash" and was the only sweptwing version. Dave_n
I know that the first one is indeed a C-119F. The 434th Troop Carrier Wing (Reserve) was stationed at Bakalar A.F.B. in Columbus, Indiana from the end of WWII until the early 70s and they used to be a daily sight. I remember one time when I was dating a local farm girl, we were out in her driveway necking up a storm one night and suddenly bright lights came on. I thought it was her dad with a spotlight but it turned out that their white barn was a landmark for the 434th and when they went over it at night on their final approach they turned on their landing lights. Pretty big shock to an 18 year old and quite a mood spoiler.
One of their squardrons went to Viet Nam with their aircraft painted black and gatling guns installed. I think they were over there just under a year. I believe they called them the Shadow Squadron.
AC-119G Shadow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob - The Beagle Master
Sorry but in this case, memory doesn't serve you correctly :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_n
The F-84F Thunderstreak and RF-84F Thunderflash both served with the USAF and several other NATO and MAP countries. In fairly large numbers too.
The F-model was such a departure from the others that today it would probably get a different designation instead of just a different name.
Another oddity in the F-84's history was the F-84G. The development of the swept-wing F-model was so delayed that the straight-wing G was built as an interim "gap filler." It entered service nearly a year before the older/newer F-models and more were made than any other version.
Maury
FYI
BEAR
Airborne...All the way!
I got a little flight time in C 119s - old shake rattle & roll. Made 5 flights, never made a landing.
We got an AF reserve sqdn doing their 2 weeks active duty as our jump A/C at Ft Benning in Nov 68.
Airborne!!!
Sarge