Got my M1917 bayonet and scabbard today.

Hey guys,

Emailed the seller today to ask if he shipped yet. Got no reply but...when I got home from work today the package from him was lying on my bed. Opened it up and there was no damage from the U.S. post office.

The pair are spot on as described and photographed by the seller, no nasty surprises.

The Remington bayonet dated 1913, 9 17, properly has the British inspection marks slashed and a U.S. stamped underneath. Scabbard leather is stamped GK with inspector markings.

Everything is right, though there is some rust. These two have never been refinished and are completely original. The blade is unsharpened, perfect point, no rust but is stained. Will not try to clean it, real fine.

Showed it to my daughter and told her the history behind both pieces. She get's jazzed by history, and was impressed by the seventeen inch blade. So was I. A Japanese Katana is only ten inches longer and a Roman Gladius is maybe the same length as a '17 bayonet, both stabbing weapons.

Leather is really nice, just a couple minor scratches and lots'a green paint. Supple and not a stitch missing.

Grips are very good and came off with a little careful manipulation. Did no harm. Guarantee tonight is the first time they have ever been off. Little tricky that process. The nuts are not swedged into the wood, they float. Swabbed them only on the outside with lemon oil. No cracks and just a couple minor dinks.

All of the metal is currently enjoying a heavy swabbing of Break Free. That probably will not be enough. First step after the soak will be to scrub with a Kleen-Bore nylon brush. After that might go with four ought steel wool and oil. Any thoughts about that? Will go easy as there is as much dark blue as rust.

Will post before during and after photos when the project is done. Man...needed a project.

Looked a long time for the right set for the right price and am very happy with the pair...if ya' wonderin', gave one twenty five...shipping included. Came from Pensacola, Fla. Maybe they spent time on base there.

Death to tyrants,

Lancebear

Photos?

Looking forward to the before and after pics. Don't know if it's been mentioned but the M1917 bayonet was still in US inventory during the Vietnam war. Was used on the trench shotgun. Although I've never understood why you'd want or need a bayonet on a shotgun firing OO buckshot. Guess it was for the "Aw #$%@ factor" when attached to the end of what is just one ugly weapon to begin with.

I have a M-1917 Remington bayonet with its scabbard and am trying to find out if it is worth anything at all. It seems to be in good condition. Im willing to send pictures to anyone interested in seeing it. just email me if interested. Thanks

im looking for a P1913-canceled -M1917-remark myself

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Originally Posted by ICEBERG7171

I have a M-1917 Remington bayonet with its scabbard and am trying to find out if it is worth anything at all. It seems to be in good condition. Im willing to send pictures to anyone interested in seeing it. just email me if interested. Thanks

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I was watching these on ebay for a while and they seemed to be consistently bringing $125 for the bayonet alone. Scabbards were getting around $50 or so. I picked up a pair of them dated 1918 at an auction for $130 without scabbards.

I cheaped out and bought a 1913 for $54.

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Originally Posted by Dan Shapiro

Don't know if it's been mentioned but the M1917 bayonet was still in US inventory during the Vietnam war. Was used on the trench shotgun.

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True, but the US couldn't locate enough of the original M1917 bayonets for Vietnam issue, and so contracted with General Cutlery for new-made ones. These are just a bit cruder than the original in some details (diamond-checked plastic grips), but actually very well made and excellent bayonets. Unmarked except for on the quillion, where one side is stamped US M1917 and the other side is stamped General Cutlery. I have what appears to be an unissued example. The grips, despite the design and material differences with the originals do have a nice, beefy feel in the hand. General Cutlery is headquartered in Fremont, Ohio, but the bayonet reference book, "Bayonets from Jaqnzen's Notebook", reports that these bayonets were actually manufactured in Canada.

Mounted on the shotgun, the whole package is truly an intimidating sight.
:yikes:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo..._onfence-1.jpg

alamo 308,.. Both General Cutlery, in Fremont, Ohio, and Canadian Arsenals Ltd., Canada, made the late model M1917 bayonets. I have samples of each.

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Originally Posted by Tom in N.J.

alamo 308,.. Both General Cutlery, in Fremont, Ohio, and Canadian Arsenals Ltd., Canada, made the late model M1917 bayonets. I have samples of each.

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Thanks for the clarification, Tom. I often wondered about that info in Jantzen's book: "They were produced in Canada by General Cutlery." So... if marked "GEN CUT," it is a US-made example, right?

This why the bayonet comes up pretty often. Think about it, out of ammo ? Guard duty ? Prisoner guard ? Lots of times you want to move somebody along without shooting them.

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Originally Posted by alamo308

Thanks for the clarification, Tom. I often wondered about that info in Jantzen's book: "They were produced in Canada by General Cutlery." So... if marked "GEN CUT," it is a US-made example, right?

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It seems so, if the info in this eBay auction is correct.
(I just ran across this auction by coincidence and remembered this thread)

Is this asking price anywhere near the market value now?

ORIGINAL US VIETNAM M1917 SHOTGUN~TRENCHGUN BAYONET - eBay (item 190495465121 end time Feb-25-11 20:04:22 PST)

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Originally Posted by cafdfw

It seems so, if the info in this eBay auction is correct.
(I just ran across this auction by coincidence and remembered this thread)
Is this asking price anywhere near the market value now?

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Wow! I just searched on ebay for Vietnam M1917 bayonet, and the current bids are $25 and $86, with one listed as Buy Now for $275! :move eek:

I used to have one of the Vietnam era built M1917 bayonets and later sold it. I wish I had known more about it; I payed $30 for it about 3 years ago and sold it not too much later for a whopping $75 and thought I was doing more. Sht_le does NOT let me forget that incident and claims he would have offered far more. Apparently they are pretty uncommon, but hey, live and learn! Right now, in place of that, my M1917 Bayonet is Remington, June of 1917 production that has been probably seen service in North Africa (at least that is my guess) because of the olive drab-tan paint that can be found chipping away but mostly covering the hilt and grip and a small section of blade. I payed $25 recently on ebay because some guy thought it way Chinese (on the reverse side of the blade are British inspectors marks that I guess if you squint looks Chinese?) Either way, it came with a nice British style scabbard and I have been pleased with her.