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I was wondering how many different enfield mags there are. Not by maker or arsenal stamps, just simply how many that would fit one version of rifle but not another. I am aware that the No1 and No4 used different mags, but are any interchangeable? Pics to help ID would be nice too.
Thanks
Actually, a fairly large number of variations and downright different mags have been used. Everything from early single column to 7.62x51 10 (L8/L42a1) and 12 shot (Indian) magazines. Books are a great asset here.
I plan on getting books soon. I saw a mag at the gunshow and the seller didn't know what model it was for and neither did I.
How do you tell the 308 mags from #4 303 mags?
Basicaly the most common are the smle and No4 magazines. The SMLE mag has a two step rib on the back while the No4 has a one step rib.
You will rarely encounter a single stack magazine for the Lee Metford or the five round carbine magazine. Yes, I know there are five rounders that will fit the SMLE, but these are cut downs rather than made that way and an original will have a small metal loop at the front for attaching a link to tie it to the carbine.
The only others would be the .British308 mags, one of which will let you feed from the mag and the other intended as a single loading platform for the L39A and the Indian .308 mag for their .308. I am not counting the .22 hornet mags for the lighgow conve4rsions.
OOPS almost forgot the 20 round mag. If you find one, you have won the lottery.:D:D:D
Thanks for the replies.
I've been browsing around and now realize that some SMLE mags were notched for the cutoff while others were not. Was the cutoff discontinued at some point and the order given to discard the cutoff and its screw during inspection/repair?
"...How do you tell the 308 mags from #4 303 mags?..." .308/7.62 mags have square corners and have a different follower.
Here's a good idea Ralfus. Why don't you research the subject and write up a small paper on it. You'll never make a fortune but it'd certainly be a useful guide for all the LE collectors around the world.
Sorry to correct you John. You quote "5 round carbine mag" when I believe they take 6.
Well, yes.:D
That would certainly keep me busy for the next ten years. The hardest part is translating terminology from English English, American English (too many dialects), Canadian English (what is a zed?), Aussie English (cheers), NZ English, Indian English (call tech support/call center English).Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Thanks for the help folks.:wave:
Who is selling 5/6 round No. 4 mk1 magazines? A friend has a 10 round which is illegal for deer hunting in NYS.
Promag is making them. I've seen some on gunbroker.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Woodchuck
Here are some rough pics of the more common mags.
From L to R Magazine cases 1 through to 4, then a mag for the No.4 Rifle and lastly an Enfield 7.62 mag.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../mags001-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../mags002-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../mags003-1.jpg
Thanks, Lithy, haven't seen a "2" loose before!
It isn't loose mate. After the pic it went straight back into the QP MkI from whence it came:)Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Thanks for taking time for those pics Lithy.
The 5 round limit only applies to autoloading rifles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodchuck
Steve,
I'll have to double check that. Can't let erroneous rumors continue spoiling hunting experience!
Lithy were are the 2a, 2a1 mags
Assuming your question is where are the 2a and 2a1 mags, please feel free to post pics as I don't own an Indian rifle of any description.:cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bindi2
A line has to be drawn somewhere, and mine, excluding a couple of ratty #5s, only 'cause they're soooo sexy and they were used by Diggers in Malaya and Borneo, is Australian Service Rifles:surrender:
I've some and some remington lees too! Probably the weekend before pics though. Someone surely has to be faster!
I have a No.1Mk4 sporterized rifle that, every time the bolt goes foreward it dents the cartridge case(won't chamber after this). Wrong magazine? How do I tell if it's got a bad or wrong mag.?
TIA, Steve
Steve, if it seats and locks in, then it probably just needs adjusting in the feed lips. sometimes followers and springs foul up, most much less likely.
Assuming you mean that you have a Rifle No4 Mk1 (there is no such animal as a No1 Mk4), find a mate with another #4 that is working correctly and borrow his mag to try in your rifle. If it works well with the borrowed mag, compare the two paying particular attention to the feed lips. Adjustment may be needed.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by steve61
Finally,.......................................... 2A magazine pictures
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC00189-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC00190-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...DSC00191-1.jpg
Sure wold be nice to have a Knowledge Library article developed and written as a collectors guide to Enfield Magazines ... ;)
Regards,
Badger
What, nobody has any pics of a single-stack MLLE mag, or all the variants of the .22 cal mags, or the elusive 20rd mag? How about the carbine 5 rounds mag or the BSA Lee-speed sporting rifle mag?
For .22 mags, the most commonly encountered are the No.2MkIV mag which is a standard SMLE mag with the guts removed and a "22" stamped into the side. After that, you often see the CNo.7 mag with "22" engraved on the side and a loading platform for the .22 shells (single shot) inside the hull. Outwardly, it looks like a No.4 mag. There are, of course, other types but they are not likely to be seen in the wild.
Of course your right, it's a No.4mk1. I must of been over tired? Thanks for correcting me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lithy
Sorry, Steve
Closest I can get to a MLLE single stack is a 30-40 Krag caliber 1899 Rem-Lee mag; I keep wishing though! Dunno iff'n I have a .22 marked mag shell, no fancy 22lr mags here:crying:. Don't know if I still have camera priveleges after last weekend's flog!
No apology needed. We all have brain fades from time to time:):surrender:Quote:
Originally Posted by steve61