A Warning for UK collectors

After getting back into collecting bayonets (smle 1907 all makes ,types etc) i was just in time to put a last minute bid on ebay, for a Vickers 1907, i was told i cant because of their knife policy i didnt get the full message as i tried again to bid but didnt have enough time.
After calling ebay this morning and explained that i had bought some bayonets in the last few weeks with no probs.
It turned out the listing category mentioned knives, edged weapons are ok but knives you need to prove your ID this i would say was the message i had received when i tried to confirm my bid, i was gutted, the bayonet had a mint blade it had the wrong scabbard but went for £66 i am still in tears....

For any one in the UK make sure the category does not have KNIVES in, if it does be sure to bid early gives you a chance to confirm your age, dont make the same mistake i made.

EPay is run by a couple of liberal leftist gun haters.
I remember the stink when they removed a charger full of 303 FIRED CASES!

EVIL gun parts.:rolleyes:

BigDuke 6 did you actually call EBay and get the low down...as i was trying to bid on an M8 scabbard for one of my M3 fighting knives and i couldnt put a bid on......asit contaviened their guns and knives policy...i thought WTF...i cant bid on a SCABBARD ????

regards

Lloyd

Lloyd,

Sorry I missed your post, but yes I did phone them, (cant say I was the usual shy retiring self) but it was due to the seller listing it in a catagory containing the word KNIVES.

I was shall we say liberated from the E-Bay gods a few years back for something they call shill bidding, when I finally got a live body to talk to I explained that I am Stephan D and the bidder was Stephan M, different accounts! We had a bit of a heated conversation and I terminated my E-Bay account with over 700 positives, no negatives! They are as left wing as any good scam artists, they are getting money from all directions and change rules without warning if something is not politically correct, A$$wipes!!!

Thanks Big Duke 6...get you a case of beer for that one..:-)

EBay.....Jokers....

Regards

Grumpy of Suffolk UK

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Originally Posted by LimeyCarbineLover

BigDuke 6 did you actually call EBay and get the low down...as i was trying to bid on an M8 scabbard for one of my M3 fighting knives and i couldnt put a bid on......asit contaviened their guns and knives policy...i thought WTF...i cant bid on a SCABBARD ????

regards

Lloyd

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...given my love of all things leather, as you well know Lloyd ;), I have been in the same position with the muppets a few times...

Last one I can recall was a lovely Gerber Mark II scabbard & my bids were blocked as it was, according to the Kommiefornians - a KNIFE

The UK Ebay call centre assistant tried all ways to get the bids allowed - no success!!
His advice to me? Lie about my location, change my home address to a non-UK one & then place a bid!!!

You couldn't make it up...

Go on then, someone in the UK, tell me in laymans terms just how do you put a bayonet on that auction site now. We want to dispose of a 'few' and it just seems to come to a grinding halt......... as much as I enjoy a good grind, that's all I seem to do...... come to a grinding halt if you'll excuse the phrase!

Should I open another account, in say South Carolina with a SC address - or just ask a SC resident to put them up with 'item located at BA10 1YZ England? Wierd or what!!!!!!!!!!

Here in Germany, almost all e-pay Enfield items are closed off (they are not shown and blocked off by a text stating that the items are "not permitted to be sold in this area"). Even tools or webbing items etc. are blocked. So don´t know why gun items are ever entered.

The positive aspect is that there´s a reputable and reliable gun auction site here that works for buyers and sellers from any country: http://www.egun.de/market/browse.php. The only problem is that it´s in German but only minimum language skills are necessary and items are very often described in English. Enfield items to be found under the heading: Sammlerwaffen/-munition

Never use the e-b*ggers any more!

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

Go on then, someone in the UK, tell me in laymans terms just how do you put a bayonet on that auction site now. We want to dispose of a 'few' and it just seems to come to a grinding halt......... as much as I enjoy a good grind, that's all I seem to do...... come to a grinding halt if you'll excuse the phrase!

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Hello Peter, there have been two spike bayonets listed & sold on ebay.co.uk in the last week or so (I bid unsuccessfully on both... :(), but I reckon only because the sellers managed to sneak them 'under the wire' somehow. The first (Item number: 220871460026) avoided all mention of the word bayonet & was listed as a 'letter opener', which seems to be an acceptable category, while the second (Item number: 140620919838) was entitled a '"Pig Sticker" Bayon.' & listed in 'Field Gear' (although it was actually described as a bayonet later in the listing, which seems to have been strangely missed by eBay).

I've just done a quick search for 'bayonet' & there are several on there from what appear to be UK sellers - see item numbers: 320779320977, 320779322578, 220881974593 & 140626575560, for examples - but they're all listed in US Dollars, so perhaps that's a workaround (or they've been listed on ebay.com, of course). Maybe a message to the sellers might bear fruit?


Hope this helps,

Kevin

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

Go on then, someone in the UK, tell me in laymans terms just how do you put a bayonet on that auction site now. We want to dispose of a 'few' and it just seems to come to a grinding halt......... as much as I enjoy a good grind, that's all I seem to do...... come to a grinding halt if you'll excuse the phrase!

Should I open another account, in say South Carolina with a SC address - or just ask a SC resident to put them up with 'item located at BA10 1YZ England? Wierd or what!!!!!!!!!!

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No need for another account, you just need to log on in on the USA site, go to the bottom of the home page, all countries listed at the bottom, you know when you are in as everything appears in $$ as long as its not listed in Knives or contain Knives in the listing category then not a problem to anyone in the UK wishing to bid and no need to provide ID etc

this all just sucks - these are not the weapons of choice of the holligans and criminals , these are collector items that are cherished and protected , what in the H E double toothpicks is our world comming to ?

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Originally Posted by A square 10

this all just sucks - these are not the weapons of choice of the holligans and criminals , these are collector items that are cherished and protected , what in the H E double toothpicks is our world comming to ?

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Coming soon to a country near US!

The knife ban on E-bay came about by the BBC ordering flick knives and similar via E-bay. They interviewed the Director of E-bay who said he would stop knife sales via E bay UK. We did not see the UKBA procecute the BBC for smuggling.
The effect of all this is, #1 people in the UK can purchase from web sites in the USA and do . #2 The price of collectable knives and bayonets has increased in the UK because there is no competition.#3 At a time of recession one would think selling and buying of any thing should be encouraged!

Kind regards, Lester

Hi - Please help - If anyone can provide a clear answer for me on the listing of bayonets located in the UK on the USA e-bay site then I would be eternally grateful. The amount of time I spend messing around with adjusting the postage settings to get things listed is horrendous.

To list a bayonet I go to the USA ebay.com site, login as normal, go to sell an item, put in details, description, photos, postal options etc. The issue is that when I try to list the auction about 50% of the time I get a message saying that 'the item is prohibited from being exported and can only be delivered within the USA' (or words to that effect). This means that I have to go back and remove any international postal options to get the auction to list. The other 50% of the time I set the auction up with international postage options and it all lists perfectly with no problems.

For example, at the moment I have two bayonets listed: 271235314560 which listed all ok and has international selling options and will allow persons in the countries where I will post to to bid on. The second bayonet; 271235281503 no matter what I do will only allow me to list it with postage options inside the USA (i.e. no international postage); from this I get e-mails from people trying to bid in Europe or Australia but can't because when they try they get told that I do not post to that country!

I have tried numerous combinations of postal options, changed categories, changed words etc and there doesn't seem to be any clear rule to any of it.

If anyone can tell me what the specific magic auction setup combination is so that someone in the UK can list bayonets on e-bay so that they have international postal options and can therefore be bid on by someone in that country; then I would be eternally grateful.

By the way just joined this forum today - Very impressed

I'm not tooooo sure of the response that you're going to get James, for a couple of reasons! There are certainly ways around the ludicrous way that auction site seems to operate but....... Several times in the recent past, we've seen newly joined members asking quite complicated questions such as yours is (and throwing glib, hopelessly wrong comments into the ring which niggle some long serving members I can tell you.....). The question is answered, maybe by many forumers all putting their heads together......... and guess what? Yep....., got it in one! The questioner is never heard from again. He's got what he wanted and legged it.

If I were you, Instead of diving in with a convoluted and complicated (well, it is to me.....) question, I'd have been inclined to get settled into the forum first, ask a few simple, interesting Q's, dish out a few answers, become known, establish your credentials...., you know the sort of thing........... and then get stuck into the big stuff. After all, you could be a dealer or a trader picking our brains before you've given us a chance to pick yours. Not saying that you are of course but it HAS happened and been commented on

Only my 2c's worth. Others may differ...., probably will. And incidentally, I don't know the answer to the question

Simple answer James, its trial and error, I had some issues with a bayonet last year that I listed (the same way as most from the UK) but the postage was way out and couldnt change it.

I think ebay are getting wise to the situation, but it all depends what you list it under, you need to have a look at any others listed from the UK and go from there.

You could always put them on the classifieds on here, or try Milweb.net here in the UK.

What is this world coming to?

Try Milweb or Gunstar to sell bayonets. Another site I have purchased from is V bid me in Portugal. The chap who runs V bid use to be "Sword Seller" on E-bay. The idiots who spoilt E-bay Uk for the genuine collectors, were ordering flick knives, stun guns and shock batons. The crime is caused by the pound shop Stanley knife or a kitchen knife stolen from Mummies draw. Not by the genuine collector who spends hundreds of pounds on rare bayonets. I have spoken to many friends who are retired or serving Police Officers. NONE of these officers have seen a bayonet used in a crime. Another load of nonsense, whilst I am on my soap box, is the curved bladed sword import ban in the UK. You are just as dead if you are stabbed with a straight sword !