Which Garand would you say is rarer, a Win-13 or Winchester Garand M1D? I have a chance to buy either one. Please let me know. Thanks.
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Which Garand would you say is rarer, a Win-13 or Winchester Garand M1D? I have a chance to buy either one. Please let me know. Thanks.
Win-13 - just a guess a M1D can be a mix master while a original Win 13 would be hard to come by
Winchester M1-D with Papers by far... 40,000 Win-13's were made. No way there where 40,000 USGI M1-D's made...
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Originally Posted by Phrogpilot
I will conceed that there were more Win 13's made but how many survive.
A win 13 had a longer road to travel intact vs a Rebuild Win M1D.
Interesting question to ponder
Thanks guys. I know the Win-13 is correct, but the Win M1D does not have papers and is most likely a rebuild. I am leaning heavily towards the Win-13.
WIN-13 hands down then. Does it have an uncut op rod and wide pad on the trigger housing?Quote:
Originally Posted by mbarrad
Non-papered M1D is a non-issue.
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From CSP - Posted by Too much Coffee
CMP WRA Correct Win-13 goes for...
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$6,615.00! WOW!!!
Good donation to CMP programs.
CMP WRA Correct Win-13 goes for... - Culvers Shooting Page Forums
Lots of guys on this site can make you a very nice Win M1D. It is merely a matter of parts.
if the "papers" are a "certificate of authenticity" run out of a word processor i would not put a whole lot of store in that. Let each weapon speak for itself and buy the one you like the best.
Regards,
Jim
"A cynic is a person who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing" - Oscar Wilde
Yes.. I have a bunch of "Certificates of Authenticity" just waiting to be filled in...
the only papers that count are original DD1348, with correct NSN. If not, then send CMP an email and ask them if the S/N was an actual M1D.
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How bout this one Mark? It beat the CMP auction price. :beerchug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Rochester
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=139476031
That is insane! Loy, that Win 13 looks put together. And, the op-rod is cut to boot!
Also wouldn't that op rod be a straight type, not the early slant type
On Win-13's it could be either, but it probably shouldn't be modified. There are some guys that want the racetrack mod to be a WWII mod done at Winchester, but you are buying/selling an argument when you go there. I go back and forth still and would love to allow for the possibility, but without some kind of source documentation I just don't know how we will ever know for sure.
Beautiful stock, gas cylinder lock is awful dark, sight cover is SA, plunger should have ears (and I always took the rounded ones to be Korean but I think there is someone out there who calls them WRA), front sight looks a bit too wide almost, can't see the trigger housing pad. That all might be a bit brutal, so I'll end it by saying that is a very nice rifle and there is a lot of nice stuff there (and that really does appear to be an absolutely exceptional stock).
Still,you guys are shocking me - that is a lot of money ...
Best all.
Just for info. , SARCO was selling some M1ds they put together a few years ago, all from parts. I know that some of them were built on import receivers and have a British Nitro proof on the left side of the front of the receiver but no import marks on the barrels. You have to strip the rifle to see it. Also I know on some they didnt use M1d stocks and didnt install the original cheek piece screws on some. If you peek under the leather cheek piece there should be a half boxed SA inspectors mark and also there should be two small brass screws holding the cheek piece to the stock.
SARCO wasnt trying to fool anyone and they stated that they were put together rifles but once they change hands a time or two......then who knows