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Supposedly dog leg hammers. Note there are no machining marks, which adds up to castings.
There is another give away, which I will not post because they will correct it next time.
The best part is the claimed documentation. Can anybody guess what is wrong?
I had a lot of fun looking at this one. Hope you do too.
M1 Carbine Type 2 DOGLEG NOS Un-issued Mint - eBay (item 180434635300 end time Dec-19-09 01:56:34 PST)
A humpers dream, at that. Take your hand stamps and make it whatever manufacturer you need. Documentation? doglegs were before FSNs?, packaging doesn't says carbine hammers anywhere, doglegs were replaced mid war, and long before we sold the carbines as aid? Am I warm?
I looked up FSN 10056737965 in the NSN catalog and it equated to:
"Pistol, Caliber. 45, Automatic". Once a federal #, always a federal #.
My $.02
You got it. There is about 6 or 7 things wrong with this sale, but the incorrect FSN is the best. If I were interested I would contact the seller and ask to see the entire form, which should show the designation.
I wonder if he would sell me a pistol for the advertised price.
That's just sad!
I forgot to reply to imarangemaster:
You have about 80% correct in your answer. Now the seller can chose which ones are right and which are wrong :>)
When was the last time anyone saw new doglegs that were parkerized? I would say more but Bill is correct in not saying it to give aid and comfort to the humpers. Wonder what part of China these came from.
I asked the seller (via ebay) if any of the hammers had any manufacturers codes stamped on them. His answer was "these are unstamped".
It would be nice if somebody asked to see the entire form.
I bet he will refuse the request.
Untouched photo: ;)
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...09/11/25-1.jpg
HAAAAAA good one!
I posted a general beware on CMP carbine forum. Didn't name names, but they can figure it out. Lots of potential victims there.
And you too can have one for the low low price of only $74.94 delivered. :bash:
Better all rush to get them, probably only a few thousand left. :nono:
River Bank!!! That is rich! LOL, LMFAO!
That is priceless! :super: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by cafdfw
I got a "thank you for your input" message from the seller. The text between the lines :madsmile: basically said mind your own business and gave some BS line about why the .45 FSN was there.
So I shouldn't buy the 50 M1A1/ M1 Carbine Paratrooper Buttplates that I was looking at from him? lol
Accorcing to somebody who replied to my CMP post, the same seller has 50 m1a1 buttplates for sale NO RETURNS! If I was rich I'd buy some so I could leave appropriate feedback and warn others.
Item has been pulled and so have the butt plates!!!
Butt plates are still there. M1A1/ M1 Carbine Paratrooper Buttplate SALE 2 for $175 - eBay (item 180434628272 end time Dec-19-09 01:21:54 PST)
He probably loves me for posting it on the CMP forum too! hahaha
His butt plate pictures show original ammunition boxes in the back ground, but no orginal package the butt plates came in. What does that say?
I noticed the bandoleer boxes too. It is like he is staging a diorama or museum display, but trying to give credibility to the authenticity and his "overseas sources". He never said they came out of the boxes, though Hahahahaha!
Hmmm... China is overseas!
Couldnt see the auction... what did I miss? I bought one of the hammers from that company as they live about an hours drive from me in Washington State. Was briefly allowed to visit the back room until the supervisor came back and politely asked me to leave the area. I am hesitant to take it back, there were some goodies I would like to buy from them. I did see a lot of Crated US surplus weapons and Lots of parts they recently imported. (from where? I dont know... Korea is my guess from some of the markings on the stocks), and a LARGE quantity of USGI carbine ammo still in crates. I inquired about purchasing 2 of the 1911a1's I seen. (Good to Exc) and a Carbine (Good to Exc) but was told that they will get back to me as they are pending sale to a wholesale dealer somewhere east. All had a light micro import mark. looked at 1 open crate of 12 M1a1 Carbines and a crate of fair looking M4 Bayonets with mix of M8 and M8a1 scabbards. I know they are importers but they do not have a public showroom. Anyone else got further info on these guys?
sorry double post...
No information on them, but I have tons of information on what was made, when, and by who. Nothing they show makes any sense at all.
Again I will not go into the details, but on the hammers there are several characteristics of everything they show, that just do not fit.
There are exceptions, so an item that has an exception, can be legit. But when an item has many exceptions, there is one chance in millions that it is legit.
As of last night, the hammers were withdrawn from the auction.
Surplus rare parts in large numbers.
Did China make USGI carbine parts???...LOL Bet the VCI paper is not even USGI.
If I recall right, I have seen that type VCI paper on tools at Harbor Freight! They come from...guess where!
Endless supply on NEW parts. Maybe Harbor Freight has a new "Humped Parts Division"!