I'm looking at a no.4 Savage with the US Property mark. The guy claims that the bolt and mag do not have serial numbers, only an S stamp. Is this logical?
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I'm looking at a no.4 Savage with the US Property mark. The guy claims that the bolt and mag do not have serial numbers, only an S stamp. Is this logical?
I suppose it could be be possible, however, the bolt was numbered with the serial at the factory; apparently the magazine was marked at the unit level.
Yeah, this sounds a little fishy to me too. I think I'll probably pass on the gun.
ShaveTail, An unserialized bolt from all of the manufacturers have popped up from time to time, I have a legit example in a '43 Maltby. Unfortunately it is also an alarm bell item...replacement bolt bodies are/were avilable on the web.
I'll hopefully get some pics up of my '43 Savage by this evening and try to get some bolt and bolthead detail (macro lens doesn't like the dig camera and can't find my Photoshop program for the 'new' laptop).
Brad
I think you at least to want to see the bolt and receiver match number wise. My Savage does not have a numbered mag, but it does have the S mark on the follower. Only my late production Faz's have numbered mags. They were numbered out of the wrap.
He says the only number on the bolt is a 23, plus the Savage S mark.
Also turns out that the gun is import marked. That makes $275 a little steep, agreed?
Considering most of the best rifles from War Reserve stores around the world have all been surplused post 1968, I'd say import marks shouldn't detract from the value although I know some have a phobia about them. I always think it's funny that no one ever complains about the British commercial proofs applied to rifles both pre and post 1968. To me it's all just another day in the history of the rifle.
The import marks only bother me if poorly done, some are and some aren't.
What do you think of the price? I've been looking for a US Property marked gun. I'm still scrubbing down my Longbranch from Century. It netted me a tetanus shot a few hours ago when I idiotically stabbed my thumb with a punch putting the sear spring back in and drove rust and the gods only know what else in. Awesome day all around!:bash:
You mean you can get shoots for Enfielditious.:madsmile:Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaveTail
I'll save you a lot of trouble. (Yup, shameless plug coming here!). Just buy the matching one on my website. I pulled it from my personal collection last week and it's original and perfect sans a few handling marks in the woodwork. It's also a pre-1968 import.
Thanks Brian, I'll check your site more closely (I'm still not sure which one it is after a quick look through). I do have another question for you, if you don't mind. I need one of those stupid little niggling parts for my LB. While de-rusting it, and I mean SERIOUSLY de-rust it, I lost the pin to the rear sight (it hit me in the forehead when I finally worked it lose and then...well...who knows?) Do you have one, or know where I can get one?
If Brian does not have one, you can always try Springfield Sporters.
I have No.4 and SMLE parts in stock.
When you say the pin, do you actually mean the axis pin and not the plunger?
Yeah, just the tiny retaining pin. I'm temped to stick a sewing needle through and break it off...but that would be wrong.
I read that many of the 42-43s had many of they're markings shaved off in order to further fool Hitler, mine Savage is one of these, one can see on the side of the stocks mount some of the "B" is rubbed off and what ever else was there too. I assume same treatment to many of the bolts happened as well?
they also were Grey Parkerized, if you have the FTR stamos, it may be black but if no repair shop markings, most are found wearing a faded gray finish. Suncorite was mainly found on the 44-and up models and FTR jobs which would also explain any mismatched parts / woodwork, hope it helps.