As the title says, is there a Enfield No.2 revolver fan or collector out there? There dosn't appear to be much info available, I have the book by Stamps and Skenerton, may be they've covered everything there is to know.
Cheers,Chris.
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As the title says, is there a Enfield No.2 revolver fan or collector out there? There dosn't appear to be much info available, I have the book by Stamps and Skenerton, may be they've covered everything there is to know.
Cheers,Chris.
I likes 'em!
They didn't cover everything by any means...... in the nicest possible way of course. We have a LOAD of info on them at Warminster and I have recently put a selection of them on display in a glass case.
But I don't think that there's sufficient for a new forum..... or is there?
There are plenty of myths though. I like them. They called it
'Enfields smallest product but biggest headache'
I have one from Singapore. And it has a safety and an un bobbed hammer. I likes it. Gary
With a safety Arado.......... Are you sure that it's an Enfield?
Whoops it's a Webley. A MK II in .38. Issue to SPF 1956. I have a bobbed tanker that's not as much fun. GaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
All is forgiven. With a Norton Commando, you are excused anything! Is yours a 750 or an 850?
Mine is a 1973 750. The last of them, but it has the Superblend bottom end introduced with the 850. Regards, GaryQuote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
I like them as well.
I have had a few, my first one was mint hardly a shot fired. No 11 mk1.
Use to shoot police pistol comps with it , much to every ones dislike as they had real expensive ones and mine cost 25 quid plus post. and I use to shoot better than most with it. The only mod I made was to change the fore sight and reduce its height to lift the point of aim for the reduced loads I shot.
I have had 4 others, I never got rid of them til the uk ban came in, and the last one was a No2 mk 1 as well but was rare, I cannot remember its serial number but I do remember it was dated 1932 (at least I think it was 1932, it was 14 years ago now) and predated the Royal Navy trial guns.
I still have hundreds of .38 S & W cases which I got from the Birmingham proof house in 1984.
David
Ian Skennerton's web site offers a book on the Enfield .38 written by Mark Stamps.
I have one made in Vietnam and so marked. They apparently had a spare cylinder and made everything else.
Thanks for the replies guys, I just love this revolver and there dosn't appear to be much of a appreciation or love for this little gun. I've been lucky enough to find a 1930 Mk1 # 489 and 1931 dated #A1153 and I've got 3 other later Enfield models. Eventually I would like to add a Albion example also.
I like them, too. I have one of these made in 1934 witht the correct wood grips and stamped R.A.F. It is a great shooter with the 170 grain copper clad military rounds and dead on with some 200 grain lead bullets reloaded by a friend. It has a number of small notches along the top of one of the grips that are not random and are quite old. Wonder what the story may be? I also have a Webbely with the SPD on the backstrap which looks brand new. It is also a good shooter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brit plumber
Britplumber, well why aren't you making a beeline for Warminster. We have a nice collection here with a display case full of them....., all different, and cutaways too.
Can we have a picture of your viet cong Pistol Paul. Is it a home made or a 'home made' las in Indonesian home made Brownings that were re-marked Inglis's. If it's a true home made, I bet it won't 'poker' (see No2 book for details)
I remember them Peter, next time you invite us down i'll get some photos. Do I rember corectly that you have some early examples, possibly toolroom examples? I've been offerd a 1929 example, do you think this could be a pre production model?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
Yes, we've got a few early examples including the very last pre production and the first production. That's pretty early by my reckoning! 1929, pretty damn early I'd say!
Hi Peter,
I've bought it, its a 1929, low serial number, but its a Mk1* conversion, but dosn't appear to be marked as such (Will get a better look when I receive it next week). Could it be a official conversion? A trial? is there anyway I can tell?
Cheers, Chris.
Another question for Peter, Have you ever seen, or know of a shorter barreld No2 mk1? About 3" or so.
I have one dated 1934 and it is not converted. Still has the wooden grips too.
Merle
Newport News, VA
USA
:wave:
I used to have a couple, fun guns!!
Sorry Peter, I am a dirty bird in that I didn not see your request. I will post pictures as a new thread in case you miss this reply. best, p.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Laidler
two days of fiddling and I still can't the pictures to attach. grrr.
Here are my Pistol no.2's.
As Captain Laidler has yet to reply to your inquery, I thought I'd bring my VERY limited insight to the discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brit plumber
My first No.2 Mk.I** was (is) a short bbl. version. Cut back, yes, but the ramp front sight IS broad arrow marked, and the whole thing was phosphated and Suncorite'd, so I'm guessing it had some sort of official sanction. Definitely not a "Bubba".
I have a few, and thanks to Peter, a replacement grip screw for a 1939 No 2 Mk 1 (same age as me). One that is interesting is a 1942 No 2 Mk 1 (a lunchbox gun perhaps) that has the full hammer (SA/DA) and does not appear to be a retrofit as the innards match my 1939. I also compared it to my No 2 Mk1* and the No 2 Mk1**. The markings are also No 2 Mk 1 with no asterisks.
I posted a note on a 1921 Enfield 0.455 above and wondered if anyone has much info on these? Peter, your hoard of info at Warminster??? Dave_n
Must be picture day:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ields012-1.jpg
Some pics of the "shorty" (as brought up by Brit Plumber):
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ields015-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ields020-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ields018-1.jpg
Broad arrow mark on front sight:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ields019-1.jpg
Little photo of Enfield mark on front sight:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...elds0251-1.jpg
Several more photos await, if you can stand more of me clogging up the internet- I get carried away!
Mine is a MkI 1933 dated & RAF marked & kept under section 7.3 status here in the UK.
Couple of pic of the exhibits from our monthly talk from the Historic section of the Herts & Essex Shooting Association.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/...dafa2a8c_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/...0c0bbe3fce.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/...1ab986f8c6.jpg http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1273/...5eb61e2679.jpg http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/...64d5c46caa.jpg
Another one followed me home just recently:
1930 No.2 Mk.I that is quite "experienced", including a conversion to Mk.I* configuration, late grips, and what's left of a Suncorite finish:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...stuff009-3.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...tuff0051-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...tuff0081-1.jpg
S/N 2827 (bad photo, sorry!)
Unfortunately, someone cut the top flare off the LH grip. (No photo) Not the first time I've seen it done, but don't know why!
Some 0.360" bullets arrived as well!:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...stuff016-1.jpg
More on that subject in another thread, link below:
Heads up - .360 the like.
Whilst on the little pea brain, this one's still my favorite:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ields013-1.jpg
Wood grips like the late plastic/phenolic style!
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ields014-1.jpg
:thup:
That 1940 is nice, had very light usage! I just realised I never posted pics of the 1929 I bought. You'll notice the markings show 'No2 Mk' with no '1'. Dont know why this is, could be that someone just forgot the 1.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...9Enfield-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...CIMG1066-1.jpg
Very Nice pieces, one and all. Now I have a jones to go find one. How available is the ammo for these fine British pistols?
I too would like to find a decent No.2 Mk.I*one of these days.
I have a post-WWII Webley & Scott Mk. IV .380-in Revolver and a S&W M&P "Victory Model" .380-in Revolver, the cost of buying factory made .380-in (commercially known as .38 S&W) prompted me to get involved in reloading.
The last box of factory made (Remington) .38 S&W cartridges I bought cost around $30 (US). The Lee Precision dies were around $25. Plus with reloading I was able to load the cartridge closer to it's original specs with a heavier bullet than the 146 grain that was loaded on the factory made ammo.
Thanks
Mark
As much as I feel like bubba for saying so, I do wish someone would find a hidden store room full of MkI hammers so that some of the dirt-common and very inexpensive I* pistols we have in Canada could be more shootable. Completely reversible mod though, so not bubba exactly...
Can't speak for everywhere, but .38 S&W is pretty available here in Canada and while point of aim is a little different, it works perfectly. Real .38/200 is a bit tougher to find, primarily surplus. If you reload, there are lots of moulds out there and the .38S&W brass is identical in all ways that matter to the military brass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mohawk
I don't mind the Mk.I*actions, really, as they're smooth and not TOO heavy. Wouldn't mind doing a Steel Challenge match or two with the little beastie, just for giggles. That said, Reserve a spurred hammer for me, too! Just to try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claven2
i rather like them ,
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ONETS047-1.jpg
ive owned a dozen or so over the years but have three left - mkI , mkI* , mkI**
Just Picked Mine Up Today. A real lightly used 1943 DI star star marked one. Any one have any info on the Star Star? Its not **, they are actually stars. This one has no import or FTR marks on it. I would rate it at 90%. The bore is bright, no pitting, and some really fine rifling in it. Have to find My camera cord and then will post pics.
I reload 38 S&W using 180 grain 0.360 diameter heads made for me by a local bullet caster. Can match the 380/200 up to 10 metres. Work beautifully in Enfield Mk 1, I* and 1**; Webley Mk IV 0.380s and S&W Model 11s or their pre and Victory versions. Work nicely in 7 metre competitions as well, using a Model 10 speed loader, can eject and reload rather rapidly. Dave_n
Picked one up and sold one. Picked up a wooden gripped 1941 No2 Mk1*. Nice piece and one heck of a deal. $300 for the pistol and 771(yes 771) rounds of Remington .38 S&W, that is Israeli Army/Police Marked. Great deal on a fine piece. Might try and post photos later. Still cleaning and loving on it a bit...
Also found a Canadian Proof and No ENGLAND markings. Am very happy and working on pics ...more to come......