Bavarian Carbines -- Intro??
All,
I have always been intrigued by things Teutonic. Thus I have a smattering of those items in my collection. Note my avatar has a BMW motorcycle and sidecar rig. Got quite a bit of USGI stuff too. Carbines, of course, a couple of M1Garands, 1911 .45's and the like. When the Bavarian Carbines came to market at CMP, I felt that as a collector of Carbines, I should try to have one or two. At least one example of the type.
Then CMP started auctioning off complete sets... Six of them, one from each of the civil police organizations. Oh MY !!! I wrestled with this for some time. Big bucks for this country boy too.... Schazam !! Where in the world would I get that kind of moolah??
But I've got a secret weapon.. My sweet wife!! I met her at a combat pistol match, and she was entered. That girl knows how to use a .45 !! And she NEVER complains about any of the toys I bring home. Most often, she wants to try the trigger.... Talk about marrying over my head, I DID!!
We talked it over, and she agreed that I should make a special effort in this case. So I "won" the bid on one of the 12 sets. They should be delivered sometime next week (wk of Jan 25).
If there is any interest from the forum, I would be happy to submit a sort of photo journal of my foray into the "Carbine Teutonic". I am really excited about this, and cannot wait to see what the FedEx man bringeth. If you wish, I'll be happy to share.
Ronnie Fry, aka "Jim Nasium"
American Occupation Police Carbines
Hi guys.
For anyone who reads this and has not gotten a response from an e-mail to me, my sincere apologies. I started two major projects instead of just sticking to one. Between the two, and trying to earn extra income to afford a few of the carbines, the past 4 or 5 months I have been overwhelmed.
The BavarianM1Carbines website still has a fair amount of data entry to do and even more in the way of research to uncover the history of use of these carbines. Bavaria was only one of five German jurisdictions to use the carbines. Austria had at least 4 agencies that used them, with the Gendarmerie in each of the eight Austrian states doing things a bit differently.
There's a third country that was occupied after WWII that I have also been working on the history of the carbines they were provided with and used.
The other major project is the history of those horrible post WWII commercial carbine makers most people dislike. History is what history was and the time to preserve it is sooner than later. I noticed the Carbine Club website pic and link at the top of this page. That carbine in the picture is all late surplus GI parts on a commercial Springfield receiver (built for my USAF son).
Some of you may recall how the Bavarian carbines were viewed by most people several years ago. Until the history I'd been gathering became well known because of the quantity CMP received, thousands had their history stripped for the surplus parts. This still happens, but at least some are now being preserved.
Congrats on the set of six. And even more importantly, a wife that shares your interests.
I'll be gone for 2 weeks in February visiting with Larry Ruth, who is working on Volume III of War Baby. I'm starting to get caught up and hope when I get back to start getting back in touch with people who were willing to share their carbines for the armory on the website. And also start adding and clarifying the info already there.
I don't monitor all the forums due to the time it takes. I pop in and out when someone gives me a heads up. The helping eyes and ears are greatly appreciated Mikey.
The work I do is a full time job. Some things have happened lately that have managed to dampen my spirits and interest. Hopefully I'll be able to shake them off and get back on track.
Sharing your carbine info and pics for the armory helps this work immensely. Again, I apologize if I haven't gotten back with any of you. I'd be interested in seeing and learning about your six after I return from the trip in February.
Jim Mock
BavarianM1Carbines.com
M1CarbinesInc.com
P.S. That other occupied nation in Oct 1951....
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Tomb of the Unknown Carbine
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Originally Posted by
imarangemaster
Your Bavarian and commercial carbine sights are and incredible resource. Thanks so much. Did that Canadian lead I gave you pan out on the unknown carbine?
Thanks for referring him to me. Not the unknown carbine but he gave me a lead on another line. Very helpful. Kinda off topic here, so I'll add something useful.
I don't think Larry has kept War Baby III a secret, maybe just trying to make the most of what time he has without questions of when slowing him down. Someone asked me what will be in it. My understanding is it will correct errors in Vol I & II, expand on what's in I & II, and add what else has been learned since I & II.
My work has been focused on two primary groups of carbines, but I do not ignore bits and pieces that are noteworthy which inevitably pop up in the learning process. I am just one of hundreds of contributors to Larry's work.
My spare time? Well, I do like to shoot things...
Jim
BavarianM1Carbines.com
M1CarbinesInc.com
Rock-Ola. s/n 1,707,927
U.S. Army WWII, European Theater
Bavaria Border Police
Austrian Gendarmerie, Upper Austria
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American Occupation Police Carbines
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Originally Posted by
Mike Henning
You shoot yours? Good Grief!
No Mike, I do not shoot my Occupation carbines. In the event of War I do have enough to arm a small platoon, but not a Battalion, as you have.
Jim
BavarianM1Carbines.com
M1CarbinesInc.com
Winchester s/n 1,107,789
U.S. Army, WWII, European Theater
Bavaria Prison Guard
Austrian Gendarmerie, State of Steiermark
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