Please help to identify my slide

My last ID issue for this gun -

This T-3 slide, straight from the CMP, is almost devoid of markings. There appears to be a partial figure "8" (or bomb?) stamped halfway along the stem's outer face
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...lidestem-1.jpg
and a poorly machined pattern covering the bottom of the box's inside
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...slidebox-1.jpg


There are no other markings obvious to me on this part. My only info source right now is Riesch's book and forums like this one - Ruth's volumes are on the way. Anybody ever seen a slide like this one before? Any clues as to who made it and when will be appreciated.

TIA
:D

My guess would be Saginaw Grand rapids S'G'
They are sometimes marked very lightly on thier parts.
Also on both my IP and S'G' which both have S'G' slides there is a partial
Flaming bomb on the ouside of the arm. If you look closely you may be able to make out the S'G'
Dave

Clean the bottom of the inside of the well, looking closely in the milling scars, also look closely on the outside bottom.

SG, S'G' and W for WRA and Underwood markings can be hard to find.

Keep looking.........you'll find something.

Zoomed out.........Do I see a small Ordnance Bomb on top of the slide by the stop pin?

Cheers,
Charlie-painter777

I have one exactly like that! look in the inside the well about 1/2" from edge and
you can make out S'G'. Use some chalk.

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Originally Posted by painter777

Clean the bottom of the inside of the well, looking closely in the milling scars, also look closely on the outside bottom.

SG, S'G' and W for WRA and Underwood markings can be hard to find.

Keep looking.........you'll find something.

Zoomed out.........Do I see a small Ordnance Bomb on top of the slide by the stop pin?

Cheers,
Charlie-painter777

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Charlie, do you really see somethng? I have found if I stare at my bathroom tile floor long enough I see strange faces etc.
Just kidding.....................BB

Billy,
I tend to see many things !!
I blew his slide pic up to around x1000 and think I can make out a Ordnance bomb stamped by the slide stop pin.
But remember I've spent the last few days looking over markings on a few hundred old pocket knives...................

I'm curious to see if a 'bomb' is there.

Cheers Buddy,
Charlie

This should help you out..Look at milling marks too.

Thanks all. I don't think there's a bomb near the stop pin, perhaps just a jpeg "ripple" you see. Slide is clean save for perhaps a thin film of ATF and/or CLP so that "goop" in the box bottom is metal. I'll try using chalk tonight. It's a good idea. If I find anything, I'll post a pic tonight.

That's a nice SG pic. Wish there was some image collection available of various observed stamps by location for reference ...

Here is your slide from above
I inlarged the pic and pointed out the S'G' marking
Sorry for the screwed up photoshop job.
I have old photo software and it is the best I could do!

Dave

https://www.milsurps.com/images/imported/deleted.gif

I think you guys nailed it. I heavily coated the inside of the box with chalk (what a mess). Then using a Qtip I gently brushed through the many layers of sanskrit to reveal more recognizable characters. About 0.1" tall and about 0.4" from the leading edge I think I "see"

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../SGslide-1.jpg

"S'G'" (or maybe plain "SG" or "S" or ???). Riesch gives several possible contractors who may have produced this part. This is really a tough one. How can one tell them apart here? What's your call?

USGIcollector, how tall are the letters in your stamp?

Yes it is, also all the SGs I have seen are marked on bottom.

FTD1167 I agree with you. I have several SG slides including their M2 Slides and all are marked on the outside bottom. I could be wrong, but I believe S'G's were all marked on the inside and SG on the outside.
Dave

I am almost sure I have a type III S'G' that is stamped on the bottom. It will take me a few days to get a photo of it.

I asked earlier (above) about my type 3 slide from the CMP and you guys helped me to interpret its markings as S'G' and for that I am grateful. :super: But I just found something researching another item and need some learned opinion here

GunBroker


The pictures aren't great but what do you make of it? It is a type 3 but the inside of the box and its maker's markings look totally different from mine shown above.

:confused:

The one sold on GB just has smoother milling inside.
Plus the S'G' stamp is turned around.
All good..

Your's was stamped pretty lightly.

Charlie-painter777

OK, thank you charlie. Guess variety must be the spice of life but it sure consumes alot of resources :D

People tend to expect markings to be exactly alike and in the exact same spot. They tend to forget how fast we were throwing our war materiel together and shipping it. Some barrels never got dated. Some parts were stamped funny. Some carbines had parts by the 'wrong' sub-contractors. Some carbines had parts that didn't 'come out' until months later and others had 'old' parts after the new ones had been standardized. You'll drive yourself bananas trying to rationalize 'why' or prove it to be 'correct' or not. Most every carbine has little anomalies like that.