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This new series is billed as being much like the Band of Brothers except it is about the Pacific Theater. It is a Tom Hanks, Stevin Spielberg and Gray Goetzman production. The series is scheduled to start next month (March). I for one will be watching each showing if the Lord is willing.
HBO.COM - HBO: The Pacific: Homepage
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Band of Brothers & Pacific 2010 (ckick here)
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Badger
I was excited about the number of carbines I saw in the review of Pacific. Guess I should be more specific in my subject line……
Hopefully this is not off topic.
HBO.COM - HBO: The Pacific: Homepage
Badger just bumped it over to a existing link about it.
Charlie
I understand, didn't check to see where it went, was thinking the garbage can.
Nothing is garbage here.............
Except bad attitudes and politics !!
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Charlie
Sunday March 14th.
-Jeff L
I watched one of the newer trailers. My father shook hands with a Japanese
Boy Scout ( In NW Ohio) during the 1960's . Seemed to be a very positive experience for both of them . I am very ,very glad that I witnessed that handshake.
The HBO web page is growing and more extracts are hitting u-tube as well.
The series shows promise of being very grim and contains some valuable lessons.
The Pacific: Marines of the Pacific - Robert Leckie (HBO ).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HTGugdHpig
There are two trailer # 5's , one short & one long .
Run a search for:
The Pacific ( Trailer 5 - TCA ) The picture is good -- the clip runs 3:47.
There is some harsh language at 1:00 through 1:30 as Gsgt Basilone explains the difference between cartoons and people to some noobs.
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The Pacific: Marines of the Pacific - John Basilone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW4rrZUv5U8
Manila John was quite a guy. The video does not mention it , but when he was earning the MOH in the Solomons , Mussulini's Fascist forces were killing and crippling Americans & their allies in North Africa.
I owe my avatar to my dad. He fought on 3 islands Guadalcanal, Tarawa, and Saipan. He was in C Company, 1st Battalion, 6th Regiment, 2nd Marine Division. He was wounded on Saipan and put out of the war before he was 19.
His twin brother fought on Iwo Jima and was severely wounded. His war ended there.
Read William Manchester's Goodbye Darkness and Eugen B. Sledge's (aka Sledgehammer) book With the Old Breed at Pelelieu and Okinawa.
My dad is in this photo. He landed in one of the rubber boats with a flame thrower.
I put this up at the other site but thought I would post it here too.
I read the reviews - I don't have TV, so I guess I'll just have to read about it, maybe get it on DVD. The 'views say it is pretty realistic and true to life from the marine's-eye view but also a little disjointed, you don't really get a sense for why these guys were being sent to fight over these rocks in the pacific.
When I was a kid we used to watch "Victory at Sea" on TV. I bought it on DVD a couple years ago to watch with my son. Well, it's not as good as I remember. In fact, it's kind of cheesy in that you see a lot of 16" guns go off, generic footage, U.S. airplanes shooting down Japanese airplanes, no context. But what Victory at Sea did pretty well was give you a big-picture narrative of the war in the Pacific. The Midway segment is pretty good. "Ring Around Rabaul" you can watch that and get a sense for why Rabaul mattered. Of course they left out a lot of things, like the battle off Samar. (Which rates its own movie IMHO).
Oh, yeah the series had a really great score by Richard Rogers.
I guess what I'm saying is yeah, watch this show, but go to your library and pick up the 5-DVD set of Victory at Sea for the big picture.
jn
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I talked with my sat TV provider last week and got a 3 month trial deal: Both HBO and Showtime for free.
Might not hurt to see what kind of deals are available.
I give the first program a B- . The biggest issue ( IMO , anyway ) was trying to cover too much in a single hour.
What they did cover was done very well.
Hey Jon We know why they fought on those rocks. To kill Japs and to do it as quickly as possible. They learned a cruel lesson on the Canal. They meant to kill you so you better do it first. My humble Opinion and you know what daddy said about opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon_norstog
We agree on Vistory at Sea. It is cheesy and historically incorrect. If you notice they showed the use of carbines on the Canal and they didn't have them. They didn't even have Garands until the Army showed up. What they did have was 03's, Thompsons, BAR's, and .30 cal and most of them water cooled. I had a foreman who was in the first wave on the Canal. He told me some stories but you had to get him drunk first.
Well, TDH,
I kind of agree. The idea was to get possession of the rocks and if the japanese wouldn't leave peacefully, that's the way they had to leave. My own thought is that we really had TWO strategies for the Pacific: the Navy's strategy was to close japanese shipping routes, destroy japanese naval resources, and set the stage for an invasion from bases in the Marianas and westpac. MacArthur's strategy was to retake the Philippines and use them as a base for invasion of the home islands. I'm not convinced that was a strategy that was good for anyone but MacArthur .. but let history be the judge.
I don't know if anyone, outside of maybe Lindbergh and the America Firsters, ever proposed a negotiated peace with Japan.
jn
You pretty much got it Jon. Each set of islands taken were within bomber range of the last one and the subs helped on the shipping. The Navy got lucky with the Marianna's Turkey Shoot in two ways. While the main fleet was off shooting down almost all the Japanese planes a handful of Destroyers and destroyer escorts an jeep carriers held off a two prong attack by the rest of the Japanese Fleet off of Luzon. And I agree The P.I. was mainly for McAurther. He had to go back.
The first installment of "The Pacific ' seemed ( mostly ) well done to me. I have no problem with the focus on USMC units. The story is huge as it is.
Other units did quite well doing their share , as well.
Stanley Frankel of the 37th Infantry Division ( Ohio National Guard ) on the battle of Bougainville and the destruction of the Imperial 6th Infantry Division "of the Rape of Nanking fame ":
Frankel-y Speaking - Chapter 10 - Bougainville Mopup, and Ready for Phillipines
The 37th ID had an exchange rate of 33 for 1 on B-ville.
I beleive that one of the young men that fought and died there with the 37th went by the name of Roger Young. Roger Young grew up in the small town of Clyde Ohio. When war broke out he tried every branch of the service and was turned down because of poor eyesight. To get into the Guard he memorized the chart and snuck in. Young covered a grenade with his body to save his brother soldiers and was awarded the CMH. The local Cemetary is named in his honor.
Wiki isn't perfect but it can be useful. Here's the Rodger Young page.
Rodger Wilton Young - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hi, what's your point? MikeQuote:
Originally Posted by campperrykid
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Originally Posted by Mike
What's your's?
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John Basilone's parents were both immigrants -- even though , at one time the exact birthplace of his Mother was open to some question. ... Details can be found in the Ambrose companion book to the HBO series.
Or , very briefly , here:
John Basilone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
In my view , Manila John Basilone is yet another example of the contributions that people who are not very far removed from the old country have made to the USA. That is a recurring theme in American history. Some times they face a certain amount of prejudice -- from some misguided individuals -- as they go about their lives.
I remember the tune of the Roger Young song, but have forgotten most of the words. It started out "On the island of New Georgia in the Solomons"Quote:
Originally Posted by TDH
and part said "But in every soldiers heart in all the infantry, shines the name, shines the name of Roger Young".
It was a long time ago.
On July 31st 1943 a bloody round in the battle for the Solomon Islands
Was being fought in the tangled jungle of the island of New Georgia
This is the story of one of the young men who fought and died there
This song is respectfully dedicated to those heroic infantrymen
Who like Roger Young have sacrificed their lives
That their nation might remain forever free
Oh, they've got no time for glory in the infantry
Oh, they've got no time for praises loudly sung
But in every soldier's heart in all the infantry
Shines the name, shines the name of Roger Young
Shines the name - Roger Young
Fought and died for the men he marched among
In the everlasting glory of the infantry
Shines the name of Private Roger Young
Caught in ambush lay a company of riflemen
Just grenades against machine guns in the gloom
Caught in ambush till this one of twenty riflemen
Volunteered volunteered to meet his doom
Volunteered Roger Young
Fought and died for the men he marched among
In the everlasting courage of the infantry
Was the courage of Private Roger Young
It was he who drew the fire of the enemy
That a company of men might live to fight;
And before the deadly fire of the enemy,
Stood the man, stood the man we hail tonight.
Stood the man, Roger Young,
Fought and died for the men he marched among;
Like the everlasting spirit of the infantry,
Was the spirit of Private Rodger Young.
On the island of New Georgia in the Solomons
Stands a simple wooden cross alone to tell
That beneath the silent coral of the Solomons
Sleeps a man sleeps a man remembered well
Sleeps a man Roger Young
Fought and died for the men he marched among
In the everlasting glory of the infantry
Lives the story of Private Roger Young
This is an old Jim Reeves song. :thup: Found it here - Lyrics
There were a couple of posts about the Philippines . Here's a painting of the last known horse cavalry charge in US Army history. The attack was made by a platoon of the US 26th Cavalry ( Philippine Scouts ) on 16 Jan 1942.
Edwin Price Ramsey - Official Website
The map and letter on the right can be clicked for more details. The Lt was an interesting guy. He was very skinny by the end of the war and later worked in Japan as an aircraft salesman.
Some new scheduling and other info about the series.
(2010) - Episode list
Viewer ratings are very high and rising.
Lots of milsurps in this movie -- a few mistakes like 03a3's instead of 1903's on the Canal -- but still not bad for TV.
Some nice 1917A1s too.