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I just got my hands on 2 1942 03a3s for free and they need a little work on them. They both have plugs on the barrles only,and had plastic stocks put on them.
1 rear sight missing and 2 trigger bolts . I found all of the items but the barrles can any body help with a good place to find barrles.
Thank you
also the barrles are hard to get out any pointers??
Specialized tools are necessary to remove, replace and fit new barrels. It really doesn't make sense to buy the tools for only two rifles.
Also it sounds like they were converted to drill rifles. The barrels may be tack welded in place.
I think your first stop should be to a qualified gunsmith to determine if the rifles are suitable for rebuilding, He should be able to give you a labor quote and should also know where replacement barrels can be found.
regards,
Jim
I saw one, NIW, at a gun show on Saturday. I think it was about $125. The dates for the NIW barrels that I see seem to be mostly '44. Check ebay and Gunbroker.
Remington 1903 A3 Springfield Barrel 30-06 $1 NO R : Bolt Action at GunBroker.com
there is no noticeable spot welds around it there was tons of packing oil in it but I will take then to a gun smith, and also would u be able to see the welds?
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Originally Posted by JGaynor
Some Drill Rifles were welded on the top of the receiver and some were welded on the bottom of the receiver. Have a good 'smith check these thing out. When it is too good to be true, it usually is just that.
the weapons were ceremony weapons there are no welds on the bolt or barrle.. Unless you cant see the one holding the barrel
there were no welds on the barrels on the cut off just a military vet that got luck lol
:thup:If it hasnt been welded you may be in luck. To remove and replace the barrels though you still need a barrel vise, an action wrench, head space guages and possibly a chambering reamer. The chambers in brand new barrels are usually a few thousandths short so they can be reamed to the exact fit.
Even though the old barrel may be junk don't clamp the receiver in a machinist vise and use a pipe wrench to remove the barrel. You risk "springing" the receiver.
If both receivers are marked Remington try to find replacement barrels marked "RA". A Smith Corona Barrel will fit and work but the mismatch is kind of undesirable.
Good Luck! :thup:
Regards,
Jim
Where these the two rifles you asked about in your other post? I didn't see this thread, or I would have answered differently. The date of manufacture info I gave you was correct, though.
..to chuckindenver on this board. He can tell you what to look for and do the work if you decide to go for it.
Chris
they came with red plastic like stocks,the 1 with the ra (remington) has all r marks with the tip barrle welded. the other has r marks on everything but the barrle says SM with the barrle tip welded..
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Originally Posted by Rick the Librarian
so i guess one is a parts gun and the other is not
if you send me good pictures, i can give you some info..
i no longer work on DP rifles, but these may be an acception.
my direct email is
molinenorski@msn.com
ok.
heres the pics i need.
close up of the left side were the switch says on and off.
if you know how, remove the rifles from the stocks, and take a picture of were the barrel meets the reciever, top and bottom.
a pic from the breach, and the muzzle.
and one of the bolt face..
the plastic stock are made for drill use only, and not to be shot with.
okay give me a second
there are no welds trust me on that I broke it down
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Originally Posted by chuckindenver
the guy i got them from works in the arms room on base no welds but the tips
not that i doubt you however..
military specs to modify for drill use.
weld a plug in the breach, usually a 3 inch steel rod,
cut a section of the chamber with a torch, to weld said rod into the breach.
weld the barrel to the reciever, usually a 1 inch weld on the bottom side.
grind the firing pin tip off, weld the striker hole at the bolt face,
install the bolt, weld accross the cutoff down, so the bolt cant be removed.
remove the front sight blade or grind it off.
the few hundred or so i delt with were done this way, some more then others, some much less.
i need to know these things if you want them made into shooters.
in any event, i have barrels available, and likely most of the parts needed to get the job done, depending on how much money you want to spend, or maybe a part trade..
best bet is to contact me direct.
yes contact you # plz
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Originally Posted by chuckindenver
The guy that got them works on base??? Ouch. Any questions about their legality?
we talked last night..
ill keep everyone posted..
sounds like some rifles returned to be scrapped, and dug from the scrap pile.
i guess ill find out.
When I look at your pics on photobucket I get a malicious attack warning. You may want to check your PC for a virus. :yikes: I only get it on your pics.
FWIW
Removal of weapons from scrap pile sounds like theft. Anybody hear about the guys at Lake City who were selling bullet jackets by the truck load? Make sure you are OK with these toys. Last time I heard all '03's and Garands were being turned over to CMP for ultimate disposition.
Plastic stocks mean they are ex-ROTC rifles probably in use within the last 20 years.
Calif-Steve technically IS correct. They may be trash, but they are the government's property until turned over to the trash hauler, & then the trash belongs to the hauler. There is case law on this specific type of theft. The original case involved an employee who took pieces of Plexiglas scrap out of a trash can, & was charged & convicted.
I really don't care, but....they DO have serial numbers, they have been accounted for, & there IS a directive that they be turned over to the CMP.
Sad to say, but these sound terribly like ex-US Navy ROTC weapons. They MUST be disposed of via Navy Regulations. I understand they are being shipped off to the CMP.
Update: The one was a parts gun that only needs a barrle and is in great shape. The other has match #s and needs a barrle,my dad took it to a gun smith he knows and said that both were shooters with 03a3 recivers. I will be turn one in too a 03a3 C sniper rifle and the other back to the normal 03a3. The guns came form a VFW and were used for old funerals so Thats why the wels on the tips are open up aliitle. I will be contacting u chuckindenver and thank for your help. I am also in the process of getting 2 more I'm a luck SOB..
they were signed out of the arms room for junk because they were missing screws and they were just welded at the tip with no plugs put in so the military didnt want to put money in to them so the bird said take them if you want them. I am in the military so I got these guns not stolen.
Its only law breaking if I sell them just found that out today .. I dont want to sell them I want to bring them back to life like any good blood military man would right?
no matters...
likely the really could care less one way or the other...
i was giving a couple cannons by a VFW that was being torn down,
i got a bill of sale, and called Rockisland, as thats who gave them the guns.
and hears exactly what was said to me...
Sir, dont send those guns back hear, we dont want, or need them, they were scrap, and giving to the VFW to do as they wanted, basicly Garbage.
however.. do yourself a favor...and dont tell everyone you know, that you got a bunch of free rifles through a buddy at in the military, big ears, have big mouths... the less BS , the better..
If the rifles are from a VFW post, the odds are extremely high that they are US Government property & MAY ONLY BE RETURNED TO CMP. If not returned, eventually they are reported for addition to the Federal stolen guns list. If in doubt contact Tom Whitten ( twhitten@odcmp.com )
Twisted logic on your part..sounds like your trying to justify your greed to me. Either way..:thdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by redrumtc
This thing has trouble stamped all over it. Am I the only guy concerned?
I handed them back in didnt want any heat to come from it!!