I measured it at the store and got 48" & 1/2 in. Is this a quality unit or junk? Its the 7.62 x 54mm. What should I look for. I just bought a WASR 10 from these guys for 350$ Please help I don't want junk
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I measured it at the store and got 48" & 1/2 in. Is this a quality unit or junk? Its the 7.62 x 54mm. What should I look for. I just bought a WASR 10 from these guys for 350$ Please help I don't want junk
Not near enough detail given to help you, so far.
Are you wanting general 91-30 info, overall Moisin-Nagant goodness, or do you have specific concerns?
Besides, for $80 it might be worth it for parts...
80$ on sale, is this thing crap? or is it possible to get a good on for only 80$ I read there are Russian Military surplus going around cheap. Are there defects to watch out for?
Its surely possible to get a perfectly good 91/30 for $80. Probably going to be a recent import that's been reworked. If the bore's good and the numbers match(even if "force matched"), then its probably just fine.
BTW, I'd rather have a good 91/30 for most things than a WASR-10, but that's just me...
I'm sold thanks for your help
Bayonet's a must! Don't Moisin without one...
I agree with you, jmoore.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Here, in Italy, I payed my M91/30 - still in very good conditions - Euro340.00 I belive it is "a little bit" more than $80.
both of my 91/30's were $80 and $69.95 respectively. they're in very good to excellent condition and the $80 one is all matching too.Quote:
Originally Posted by 36Nick
B5 @ $89 with bayoner,sling, cleaning kit/tools/oil bottle and ammo pouches.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...k/3e24008a.jpg
Cheers
...MJ...
Was this at a Big 5 Sporting Goods store? They have good sales on Mosins, I've bought two from the local store. See if you can look at all the ones they have, and bring a bore light with you. Look for good rifling and matching numbers, a "hex" receiver is a plus...more desireable/collectible. My 91/30 is a 1938 Tula, shoots great. Many of them will have been counterbored at the muzzle, not necessarily a bad thing.
A common problem is crud in the chamber that makes the bolt hard to open after firing. This can be fixed by putting a 20 ga. shotgun brass brush in a section of cleaning rod, then putting that in a drill and scrubbing the hell out of the chamber with Hoppes.
Wow! You paid $459 US dollars for a rifle that costs (in USA) ~$80. Are all firearms that expensive over there?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackcat_attilio
I paid $79 for a hex 91/30. Tackdriver! (From J&G JGSales.com) Wasn't hand selected, not a "sniper rifle" with an aftermarket scope. I have seen the "snayperskaya" with am scope for about $459US.
Is yours the sniper model or just the regular 91/30?
bil
Getting a Mosin Nagant 91-30 for $80.00 is not uncommon. My brother just purchased one at a local shop for that price. All matching with prewar stock.
I paid $89 for mine at a dunhams. There awesome rifles and cheap to shoot. And worth every penny in fun.
I just bought one this morning at Dunhams for $79. Sale started on Saturday and I did not learn of it until last evening so I didn't get many to choose from. They had six left, all were WWII manufacture with looser fitting parts and stocks without the metal estrucions in the sling slots. All had barrels that were somewhat rough on the exterior. The one I picked up had a finished receiver that appears to have once belonged to a sniper version as they welded screws into the side of the receiver and ground them down and reblued. Three had matching numbers, three did not. Quality was not what I found at Cabelas three weeks ago but still, not as bad as some I've seen and once I got the grease off of it, it's a nice looking Nagant. Bore looks VERY good, the barrel was well maintained.
Most parts are Izhevsk, a few Tula on the minor parts, but Tula machinery was at the Izhevsk plant by 1942 so that wouldn't be unusual for a "new" rifle. The magazine is a bit of an oddity as it was manufactured prior to 1928 as it has an older Izhevsk mark. I will probably swap it out with the one on my other as it is in near new condition.
These aren't perfect rifles by any means and probably have little if any collector value but I expect they will be fun to shoot and seriously, for $79, where else can you get a deer hunting capable firearm.
My Dunham's rifle keeps getting more interesting. It is apparently a PU sniper rifle that had the screw holes filled in. I read about them on another site. It also has at least part of its bolt assembly with US inspection marks from New England Westinghouse. This being in addition to the pre-1928 magazine. There are stampings and markings all over this one and I haven't really started trying to figure out all of them. The stock is also about an inch and a half shorter than my other one, including the handguard. I've found nothing in my book which explains this. It wasn't the butt that was cut but the fore-end, if they were cut, doesn't look like it was and the metal caps are in place on the handguard.
Shame the bolt isn't the original sniper bolt. The trigger creep on this one is nasty. It's going to take some polishing.
The folks at Dunham's in my area told me they don't know what 91/30 types will come in. Just that they are getting a shipment of a certain quantity. They've seen both round and hex receivers M38 carbines etc. War era and post war stocks as well. So, when I can, I keep checking their inventory. Who knows what you might find.:super:
Dunhams does charge a premium for hex receivers and laminated stocks. About the cheapest you're likely to see them is $119 which really still isn't that expensive. The local one to me had some laminated stocks but no hex receivers.
Here's my 91/30 I bought from a local shop. Its a refurb with all matching pasts except the floorplate of the magazine. Came with all the goodies!
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../9130008-1.jpg
And here's what she can do......
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...eport002-1.jpg
Just got back from the range today and had the chance to shoot my mosin-nagant off a bench for the first time. I was shooting with a Caldwell bag at 50 yards with open sights, using Winchester fmj ammo (I'm trying to accumulate brass I can reload.)
Here's my results.... Pictured is a ten shot group which measured approximately 2 1/4" center to center. The last five shots (after I was really zeroed in) were just over an inch. The shots at the top of the page were my sighters. At fifty yards I had to move my point of aim to the cross marked at the lower part of the page. For open sights with my aging eyes, I'm pretty happy.
I'm planning on working up some light target loads which will improve my point of aim. I know this is no bench rest gun, but for a 1932 Russian workhorse, she looks pretty good to me! :dancingbanana:
Looks like you have a fine shooting Mosin there.:thup: I also lately started reloading for my Mosin/Nagant, but yet have tried any reloads at the range yet.
Aim Surplus has them now for $79 ($89 for hex). Anybody care to comment on whether the ones from Aim are decent or not?
Bought my third Nagant today but paid a bit more than $79 for this one. 1922 hex receiver Tula with matching numbers including the bayonet this time and mostly Tula parts. Cost $119 which seems typical for the hex recievers. This one also has the brass fittings. Will probably leave this one pretty much alone. Will clean the stock up but am not going to sand this one down. I've come to the conclusion there is only so much you can do to improve the looks of these stocks so I'm not even going to try with this one. Will probably remove the varnish though and after getting the cosmoline out may re-varnish it, or not, depends what it looks like.
Was a bit disappointed at the gun show. Not many guys with Nagants, most were over priced. One guy was selling round receiver war rifles for $99 which isn't terrible but I saw one as high as $300 and it was just a common round receiver rifle. One guy was selling full cases of 20 hex receivers for $2000. Seemed pretty pricey for a full case at $100 each.
Two repro sniper rifles, no originals. Half a dozen Finnish rifles, mostly in the $300+ range.
I bought a 91/30 from Dunhams for $79 came with accessories and bayo. Unfortunately the bayo # does not match nor does it fit. Does anyone have a matching # bayo to their gun. I must have one!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
I havnt shot this yet nor completely cleand it.Cant wait to take it out!!
Does this hand gaurd look short to anyone?
Edit:
Well i thought i posted pictures with this?......
1942 Tula Matching #'s(except for bayo) and accessory pack
You can't stop at just one! I have "Mosinitis" as well!
I have three Nagants, only one has a bayonet with matching numbers. Probably tough to get this from Dunhams or Cabelas as they ship as a case and these distributers then put them in boxes and toss in the accessories without looking at the bayonet numbers. Even the matching number bayonet didn't fit well. These are re-arsenaled and re-numbered as well. To get them to fit, get a piece of sandpaper and roll it so that it is small enough to fit inside the socket. Then sit and watch TV while you twist it for an hour or so. Change the sandpaper periodically. If you use a file or something "powered" like a dremel, you might get an irregular fit. The sandpaper takes time but it takes away the excess metal uniformly and will result in a nice tight fit when you get it right. I've done it to three of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulls-I_24
Dunhams has them on sale again this week. Regular stock $89. Laminate stock $109.
Check out http://www.7.62x54r.net
they have tons of info on Mosin's....:thup: