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I know this is a longshot, but before I remove it to see what's underneath my scarlet letter, does anybody recognize this style marking on the base of the pistol grip and perhaps where it might have come from?
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...3/Upaint-1.jpg
If you want to see what is underneath the paint, you can always take a piece of foil, place over the spot and the rub the foil with a pencil... it will conform to any indentations... that will add info to your decision to remove the paint or keep it...
Just my two cents worth,,,,
Good idea re foil, thanks. The paint appears to be of several layers, white, yellow, and red, at least, so it's applied pretty thickly. I haven't yet discovered any recognizable pattern of dents (P's, domestic rebuild marks, ???) by examining the yellow area through Photoshop's various manipulations yet. Just hoped this "style" might be recognized as characteristic of some region of the world.
CC,
Just a WAG, but I think it could be an Israeli marking.
Charlie has a lot of experience with these types of stocks and I bet he'll know what it is. I see he hasn't read this thread yet. (You should email him with a link to this thread). He also had a LOT of experience removing these painted symbols and he might give you some advice how he removes/refinishes. Charlie does some outstanding stock restorations. HTH
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what's a WAG? :confused:
I've read that Israel stamped with paint the sn on the left side of the stock. And Korea has its own distinctive painting so there does seem to be some regionality to these.
This piece has no other markings and only stampings which are typical (i.e. listed in books) for a Marlin low wood stock made for Underwood
I was just planning to use some Jasco to remove it if lacquer thinner didn't do so first. It's filthy. But I think I'll seek out some experienced advice.
Charlie?
An abbreviation for "wild a**ed guess."Quote:
Originally Posted by CrossedCannons
Yes, Charlie ('painter777') refurbishes a lot of stocks with various markings, and he knows what he's doing. :thup:Quote:
Originally Posted by CrossedCannons
You can send him an email using the link I posted above.
It won`t be very helpful but thats what i can see in my Photoshop.
Regards
Gunner
Good effort Ulrich!
I had already tried 'Photoshop' several ways I know of, but I couldn't make anything of the visible indentations under the bright paint.
They could be any anything. Maybe only a carving or such (?)
The original stamp would only be a 'P' or maybe a rebuild stamp. It's really not a location to find anything normally valuable.
There are no visible markings on the stock anyplace else other than the deep rack numbers engraved later by another country.
There might be more 'history' to the paint than the markings.
What to do, what to do? :confused:
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Harlan,
i think this could be a "personal carving" on top of the number 28 for the moment. It gives no sense for me but i`m not an expert. Other ones maybe better detectives.
Regards
Ulrich
The A could just stand for what bin the carbine was stored in. Not much information about the painted rack numbers being found.
here's a interesting link to a OI Inland stock that came with a label taped under the forearm.
A member of another forums wife passed along the information about it.
Cheers,
Charlie-painter777
Korean markings,
Korean (?) ID Tag on Carbine Stock - Page 2 - Military Surplus Collectors Forums
Since the marking is not USGI, why should it not be removed? The '28' and the other possible mark under the paint are not USGI either, but at least they're not blazing yellow and red. I would take the paint off with 'Citri-Strip' right away.
Mileage varies.
The paint and other markings are part of history and are significant to some of us.
Besides , this kind of shared detective work is fun. Some former USGI guns have returned to the US with various Allied parts , markings , and even tags that ID'ed the the individual soldier or LEO who used the weapon and his/her zero for the sights .
Yep, my scarlet A is, I'm somewhat saddened to say, gone, removed by JASCO a few weeks ago. After cleaning up the wood, I've found a 3" long CRACK clear through the belly of the stock going forward from the magazine well. It seems that this M1 stock can be easily repaired using a pin so I'm good with that.
I've got an M2 stock with exactly the same crack (must be design flaw here hmmm). Unfortunately, unlike M1, this stock has no internal cross member to contain a pin. Any suggestions for creating a lasting repair for this kind of damage to this area?
Since the belly of the m2 stock is thicker, you can still use a threaded pin. You just need to be careful when you you drill the hole.
Thanks jim. It doesn't look THAT much thicker but ... using my calipers and an empty 300 MAG fired case to aid measurement, I measure
3.1" (case inserted) - 2.617" (isolated case) = .483" (belly thickness)
so I guess you're right! thanks for getting me off my arse and breaking the bubble. So another #8 screw then should be good. Might use a #6 (just to be sure :D)
:super:
This stock passed through my hands about a year ago. I posted pics at the time, maybe on the old CSP. Someone replied, said they spoke Korean, and that all the markings were Korean. They said the paint behind the recoil plate position indicated someones name. Posting again as both stocks have the yellow and white on the base of the grip. Might be a clue for someone !. The stock is well gone now so I can't answer any questions about it. Cheers, Mike.