Global Warning Alert!

It's Springtime in Texas.

By now the rattlesnakes should be out and about causing havoc, but I suppose they're still huddled around their fireplaces in dens under the rocks wondering what's going on.
(I'm beginning to miss the little critters)

Just a few weeks ago we had the most snowfall in recorded history in Dallas -
15"!!!! (It seldom snows here more than an inch or so every few years)

Photo I just took of my house on the second day of Springtime in Texas.
(I hope my paperboy has chains for his bicycle tires!)

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...1280x768-1.jpg

Does anyone have Al Gore's email address? :lol:

Harlan,

i dont have Al Gore`s adress but i can give you Merkel`s. She is great with Global Warming too:lol:

Regards

Ulrich

It is because of Global Warming. The hotter it gets the more snow there is. During the last Ice Age it was so hot that the ice sheet was a mile deap over the Great Lakes.
It's the same with "Health Care". We will cover 40 million more people and it will cost less than we are paying now! We can also cut 500 million from Medicare and the old people will get better health care because of it!
I see a pattern here.
Stargazer

This wasn't meant to go political, so let's not go that way.

I'm just freaked out by the weather here getting colder all the time but the media keeps trying to scare everyone about the 'global warming' that's going to kill all of us. :lol:

Brrrrrrr

Harlan...

We have no snow left here on Toronto ... :p

Regards,
Doug

Out on the Harley on St. Patty's Day and on Friday. Shooting clays at the club this morning with a very light flurry for half an hour. Nothing stayed on the ground though...

Well, my own thought is "more energy in weather systems" rather than just straight-ahead warming. It's going to get hotter, it's going to get colder, it's going to get freakier. The summer monsoons used to come up into southern Utah - now they are coming up to SE Idaho. Weather is different from climate.

When I was a kid i remember reading (in my main source of scientific information, Popular Mechanics) that climatologists thought that when the arctic ocean was ice-free, it triggered glaciation in North America, Europe and Asia. I haven't read much about that since then (it was international geophysical year, 1957 IIRC) but I still think about it. Any of you kids want to tell the class what is happening in the Arctic Ocean lately? Raise your hand.

jn

JN, after all of the yucking-it-up "Global Warning" posts (and you can often not tell ... for sure ... those that are posted by folks just being silly/fun) that I see in threads on various forums/boards, it is nice to see a confirmation that someone here actually "Gets It". :)

Thank you!

Youngblood,

There are serious scientists who disagree about the *cause* of climate change - Reid Bryson, who more or less invented climatology, and Eric Dyson, the Princeton physicist. They don't disagree it's happening, they just think the change is orders of magnitude larger than what humans are capable of causing. So there is room for legitimate disagreement.

One way to settle the matter is to reduce atmospheric CO2 levels and see what happens. A good and relatively cheap way to do this would be to pay countries with a lot of grassland to manage it better. That means putting a lot of people on the land, moving herds around fast enough that they benefit, rather than destroy the grass and soil. I did the math, almost any improvements in range management, plus stopping the practice of annual burns, if done on a large-enough scale could take atmospheric CO2 down to 1972 levels.

As a side benefit regional grassland management would increase world food supplies, improve water supplies and quality, and give a whole bunch of unemployed people something to do besides fly airplanes into big buildings.

Well, that's my rant.

jn

A coorection: the skeptic on the causes of global warming is Freeman Dyson, the physicist, not Eric Dyson, the historian. Freeman Dyson thinks that CO2 emissions are one of the causes of the increase in atmospheric heat energy, but also thinks that there is something unscientific about the consensus that has built up among climate scientists.

Dyson was on a working grooup investigating climate change in the late '70s, so he is not someone coming from nowhere with an opinion. He is also someone who never got the Nobel he desrved, in great part because he is so willing to challenge the mainstream - on any topic.

Just FOLLOW THE MONEY. And, all the rest falls into place......chris3

Lets face it this "global warming" is a huge money maker for thousands of people. I am sure here in Canada you could get a federal grant to study the reproduction rate of the mosquito as long as you tied your study to "global warming" I think it would best be described as Climate Change as the earth has done for millions and millions of years. Our biggest problem is people like Al Gore...didn't he also say he invented the internet???

Be SURE to read the bottom couple LINES! Bob

Global Warming
The Washington Post

The Arctic ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some
places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the
Commerce Department yesterday from Consulafft, at Bergen, Norway Reports
from fishermen, seal hunters, and explorers all point to a radical change in
climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.
Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far
north as 81 degrees 29 minutes. Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters
showed the gulf stream still very warm. Great masses of ice have been
replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at
many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.
Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while
vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far
north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds. Within a few
years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make
most coastal cities uninhabitable.
====================

I apologize. I neglected to mention that this report was from
November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in
The Washington Post 88+ years ago.

What concerns me is what will happen if/when mankind somehow manages to cut it's CO2 (plant food) emissions ... The earth is already adjusting to it by increasing the reproductive rate of plants, cyanobacteria and the like. If we cut CO2 emissions (or even significantly slow down it's steady increase) ... As relatively little is mankind's part in the whole CO2 emissions business, we might end up triggering an ice age since "global warming scientists" seem to think in terms of warming when CO2 levels are "high" (still well below the 1% or 10 000ppm range AFAIK) .... But what happens if we "succeed" in curbing down CO2 emissions and CO2 levels fall to historic lows ? As the current "theory" goes .... The more CO2 there is, the warmer it gets, the stronger the storms get etc ... I'd rather not trigger an ice-age by not thinking changes thru on both ways of the equation thank you very much... In other words, as far as I know nobody has come up with an "ideal" number of CO2 ppm's to this day.

We´re into the second cold, wet and windy summer after two cold and icy winters. Could you all please leave you cars in idle overnight and burn some coal fires to increase CO2 as I could do with some of this `Global Warming´. Thank you!

Get the cattle to stop farting. People and my lab too (Gawd, Baxter!). So much of what people believe is 'anecdotal' in recent or remote history among the living. The 'scientific community', in my opinion works to 'prove' what will get it the greatest awards of money and fame, depending on the great personalities' 'favorite gospel' to guide the research findings, IMHO. No one now alive has the experience of tens of thousands of years of experience in global climate conditions.