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WTK: What would be the fair market value of 30 rd Sey marked hardback mags in like new condition.GK :thup:
Ist pic; left to right.SEY / J / AI over M2 / J / SEY / J .
All have no indication of ever being inserted into a carbine. :super:
Any idea of fair market value of each one,Thanks GK
$50-60 if truly like new, maybe more. I saw one awhile ago for $50
he are some in the wrap
M1 Carbine magazine New In Wrap SEY marked - Military Surplus Collectors Forums
I just saw an ad for new made SEY hardbacks, so watch out guys.
IMHO $100 is kinda high for a NIW Hardback, though I have seen them sell for close to that price. In the last year, I bought a NIW SEY Hardback for well less than half that,but that one might be luck. I don't buy USGI 30-rounder splitbacks, including new ones, for more than $35 tops and Hardbacks for more than $50...and I have bought a good number since I started collecting them a little over a year ago. Better deals are out there if you keep your eyes open. Your mileage may vary.
Thank you, all! Any way to tell the new from originals?GK
I think $50 is a bargain. I see them go for $75 and up to over $100, and they sell.
Nowhere in that ad does it state they are hardbacks.Quote:
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And a C-note plus shipping for a splitback, even if it is NIW, is a little.....extravagant. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Ricca
I can only relay to the OP my personal experience as well as the limit I would personally pay for a USGI 30-rounder.
Bill, thanks again for all the help you have given me to set me on the right path on magazines, etc. :thup:
Shadycon, here is a link from the CMP forum that might help you:
http://www.thecmp.org/pdfs/Carbine_3...ember_2007.pdf
I'm still looking for he ad that had the hardbacks. Its around here somewhere (unless the wife threw it out!). I was really surprised when I looked at it and it said "Hardback". You don't forget that kind of thing.
My dad use to tell me it only cost 99.9% more to go FIRST CLASS and he was right and I have never forgot or regreted it.
As far as that document is concerned, most of the identification information is pretty good.
As far as the history:
There never was a US Government contract for unmarked 30 round magazines. I am still researching and so far I cannot find any Korean War contracts. Also the J and J were delivered in 1966.
Also the history of 1970's and 1980's is way off. There were no government contracts. The magazines were purchased by South and Central American countries from large Surplus Dealers in SGN. Some mis-advertised them as "CIA production, unmarked". This mis-representation was a sales pitch toward US civilians and was not at all true. The magazines were sold to these countries, along with lots of after-market, low quality parts. I was involved with a few South American brokers and other than a couple of times, I could not supply the quantities of each item needed. That is why the reproduction stuff was produced and sold.
Paul,
Deals can be found on occasion, but I've seen beater 30rd sey sell for $75.
Some will bid 4 quarters instead of a dollar........
Best to you buddy........
Let me know when those watches are available ;-)
Regards
Charlie-painter777
OK, you have my curiosity up.
What watches :dunno:
Jim,
These watches.........
Restoring the M1 Carbine - Page 3 - Military Surplus Collectors Forums
i remember that thread from october, it was a good one !!
Charlie,Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
That was a pretty funny comment from Paul. I had forgot about it. Reason I asked is because I collect pocket watches from Shell Oil.
Back on topic, I didn't hear much about the last Alabama show. Saw a few pictures, one or two comments, that's all.
Has there been any word about something happening at the Dallas show? If so, what?
Trying to plan my summer. :wave:
Jim
Jim,
I haven't heard any more about the 'possible' Dallas show. We've worked 16hr days for the last 8 weeks, just missing Easter day. Until this weekend.......the boys pulled a wildcat on me. Throwing their tools down Friday evening telling me they'd see me Monday.
They (and I ) need the break, tempers getting pretty short.
We have our Spring Home Shows coming up.
If I hear anything I'll let you know.
Regards,
Charlie
Jim,
Was it you that owns a Ruger Black hawk?
I posted in the watering hole if anyone might have a take down guide I could copy for a old 3 screw single action Black Hawk. My Uncle dropped off his .357 for me to look over......like most of his arms it's been neglected.
Charlie-painter777
Charlie,Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
Yes, I have a three screw Black Hawk in .30 Carbine, also in 45 Colt. In the picture below with the Ruger is the AMT auto mag in .30 Carbine.
Ruger has on line manuals, here is a link to the .357 Ruger Black Hawk. It also shows serial numbers by years of production. I also think they will send you a manual if you request one.
Hope it helps,
Jim
Ruger Blackhawk Serial Number History
I WANT A 30 CARBINE AUTO MAG!!!!!!!!:bow::bow::bow::bow:
If you get one, don't shoot it at night. The muzzle flash will blind you.Quote:
Originally Posted by imarangemaster
But it is fun to shoot.
How is the recoil? Is it more like a .45 ACP 1911A1, or 357 Magnum?
PIC'S ADDED IN 1st POST! :beerchug:
To me, a 45 ACP kind of has a gentle roll to it. This has more of a snap. Maybe between a .40 and a 10MM. Takes some practice to get it back on line for follow up shots. But you get used to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by imarangemaster
Fun to shoot.
Jim
Thanks. I have a Magna-Ported 8 3/8" Model 29. Sounds like the recoil of that shooting 180s. I carried a Glock 10mm for awhile as a Deputy. The recoil on it was ridiculous.
Sorry about stealing this thead but I have a question. What would the fair market value of the following marked 30 rd mags be ? all in unused condition.J / J / AI over M2 / SEY[HARDBACK]
Sorry GK,
We did LEAP off your topic.
I feel the post WWII J marked are well worth $50.
The AI and SEY $75 plus.
I see beater 15rd U marked, that are parked fetch $25+.
Apoligize again for getting off track.
Cheers,
Charlie-painter777
Thank you Charlie and the rest of the gang! Getting off topic happens . I just recieved these mags and 1950-1951 dated pouches in unused condition yesterday.I have a 3 SEY mags and a couple of the pouches to part with, any takers? GK.
I agree. Last hardbacks I sold were well used and I got $50 each.
People can pay $100 if they want, but better deals are out there. Note the last two GunBroker links, they are for the same mag with a nice little profit for the re-seller (last link). Incidentally, two of these auctions are ones I won, including a $25 SEY that is like new and a $19 J that is on its way.
There were some $65-85 auctions for USGI 30-rounders on GB too and I noticed a 30-rounder priced at $100 that just doesn't seem to sell no matter how many times the dude puts it back on the block.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=154630682
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=164638393
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=162833440
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=162873815
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=159817798
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=162565247
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=164356278
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=162556932
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=163357478
It sounds like you got some good deals, dnikkor
(Smart shopping!)
Not sure of the accuracy, but I have he 'J' and 'J' (underlined) as authentic USGI markings for mags made by B. Jahn Manufacturing.
I get tired of all the ridiculously priced auctions (of all types) that clog up GB where people re-list for literally years sometimes fishing for a mullet.
I wish they'd come up with some kind of policy where an item could only be listed a few times before sellers have to pay a fee.
dnikkor,
You've done very well.
Remember how high they were just before and slightly after the election?
Or 3-4 years ago with the big CMP release.
Maybe just some frenzy buying.
Times are getting tough.......am seeing some cheaper prices when you can take the time and watch. Some just can't wait and watch........ gotta have it ASAP !
The hardbacks still tend to bring in good money and rightly so.
I couldn't survive gun show prices......... It's the GB auctions and the parts hidden between the pages with odd ending times that save me. Along with the freshly listed items with the low 'Buy it Now' option and being able to swap with good people like found on this forum.
Just a couple nights ago I linked (I think) 4 pages of GB carbine mags to a new fellow member.
I still have boxes of mags I bought back when you could still buy them on Ebay. More than I'd ever need but most are just too nice to use. I tend to use a handful of beater mags that function well to save any wear on the collectible ones. But sometimes you just can't be happy if you haven't bought something CARBINE !!
Thanks,
Charlie-painter777
Harlan,
Do you recall the seller Hooah (sp?) on GB. He started out selling carbine parts at very fair prices. Now he's one that expects $150 for a SG or S'G' 15 rd mag. Some have been listed for what seems like a year and a half.
I agree by charging for relisting after 2-3 go arounds it might bring the costs down or at least clear off a few pages. I can't sit here long enough to skim thru all the carbines and parts on GB in one evening.
Take Care Buddy,
Charlie
Charlie,
Yes, I remember him, and I agree with you. He became greedy when he discovered that some people will pay insane prices for a part they 'think' they need, and he re-lists over and over with outrageous prices looking for someone desperate.
It's the same all over GB these days in every category and sellers re-list over and over with insane auction prices.
"You know who" keeps re-listing his fake items over and over too. (Hi George) https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...miley007-1.gif
I'm happy some buyers keep trying and get good, fair deals, but I for one, have quit looking most of the time. It's just not worth my time, or much fun anymore to sift through the same stupid ads in categories I used to search through.
GB has become similar to picking up those free magazines printed on pulp paper you find on racks at the convenience store for used cars, hotrods, etc, and sellers can post free ads with stupid prices.
I'm glad to see you're working your butt off again Charlie! (You aren't happy any other way!) :)
Hooah2
Early SEY Hardback 30 Round M1 Carbine Magazine : Collectible Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com
M1 Carbine 30 Round Inland Magazine AI : Collectible Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com
M1 Carbine Irwin Pedersen 15 Rd Magazine K-IP : Magazines / Clips at GunBroker.com
M1 Carbine SP S'G' 15 Round Type I Magazine : Magazines / Clips at GunBroker.com
Nice M1 Carbine 15 Rd Type I Magazine "S'G'" : Magazines / Clips at GunBroker.com
Who made the circled B 15 rd mag?.........
NIW M1 Carbine 15 Rd Magazine "B" Miscellaneous : Magazines / Clips at GunBroker.com
M1 Carbine 30 Round Magazine SEY : Collectible Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com
Best I can do tonight.......gotta get to bed......later
Charlie
You just gotta keep your eyes open. No sense paying any more than you have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by cafdfw
My understanding is that both J and J were made by B. Jahn. And I sure agree with you on the absurdity of some of the sellers. Some guy has a maybe $100 canvas carbine case listed for $400! I have seen this same auction up for at least a year, still waiting for that fool who wants to part himself from his money. :cool:
Just to let you all know I bought these on ebay. 5 Sey hardback, 3 J, 1 J, 1 AI over M2 plus 3 JQMD 1950 and 2 S.Froehlich pouches. All in new unused condition. $200.00. Was this a good deal? GK
GK,
You know you got a good deal !!
Keep what you want ..... sell the rest.......break even......Free mags and pouches= gOOD dEAL
CHARLIE-PAINTER777
