Just curious what might be the next surplus release. Seems we are near the end of the Swiss K31's, on the downside of the SKS's. The Mosin Nagants are still pretty hot. What's still out there? Or are we at the bottom of the barrel?
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Just curious what might be the next surplus release. Seems we are near the end of the Swiss K31's, on the downside of the SKS's. The Mosin Nagants are still pretty hot. What's still out there? Or are we at the bottom of the barrel?
Over here good Swedes and NoI MKIII are rare. How much of the K31,K11 and G11 do you want?
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I suspect, the next batch, may be a bunch of Chinese stuff. The Chicom Nagant variations, Chinese mausers, Chinese Arisakas in 8x57 to name a few. They also still have a ton of stuff left over from WWII. Like the Russians, the Chinese don't throw anything away either.
There is still a lot of third world stuff out there as well. Korea is about to release a flood of Korean War vintage stuff as well.
Any of the Chinese or Korean stuff any good?
Would that include captured Japanese Ariskas as well?
Canada is awash with Russian SKS rifles, and a prominent dealer is bragging up another batch of SKSs coming from Africa someplace. The other flavour of the day are new Chinese M14s, in a different configuration with each batch. Ya Who's high school shop class is getting better, but Hang Fyr hasn't figured out the metalurgy to make the back sights any better than the first imports.
I've seen a few of the Chinese Nagants, they look to be well made. The Arisakas I've seen, in 8x57 look exactly like the Japanese Arisakas but with Chinese markings. The Chinese mausers I've seen have been beaten to death.
The CMP has a bunch of M1 Garands and Carbines they got from Greece. They are going fast though....chris3
To each their own but I fail to see the attraction of all the East Bloc and Chinese guns being sold. Very crude and low quality. Remember when you could buy a 1908 Mauser mail order in mint condition for $135?
True enough, but some of the Russian SKS's with all milled construction are comparatively well made next to other semi-auto carbines we see - certainly better made than an AK.
They are also rather fun and inexpensive to shoot.
As for Chinese M14's, well, the receivers are really nice and sometimes the barrels are too. The rest? Well, if you're lucky, you have a prohibited (in Canada) M14 you can strip and build the original gun back onto the good chinese receiver - then it still can be used. If not, the Chinese parts need a lot of fiddling to work best. Too bad some entrepreneur hasn't bought a bunch of chinese receivers and a bunch of offshore M14's and started building "mostly GI" rifles that could be imported in proper nick to begin with ;)
In terms of what's coming next for surplus, I'd guess lots of Chinese stuff. The Chinese have finally decided to sell off their VST supplies of SKS's in many variants and flavors. I think we'd see mosins too except that the margins would be so low to bring them in.
The Czechs are also changing small arms, so we might see some VZ57's in 6.62x39?
As for mixed African stuff - difficult to predict. Could be anything come out of those countries.
My Chinese SKS are the most accurate I own. And they are parts rifles. The Chinese version of the Mosin Nagant M44 is equal to any of the M44s out there. I need one of those too. Alot of 1917 Enfields went to the Chinese during WW2. I would like to see some of them come back over here. The Chinese made version of the 1911 is one of the better clones made. However, they are not imported any longer.....chris3
I personally can't get enough of the Swiss K-31's. love those's guns
I here one of the U.S. distributors is handling a batch of South Korean M1 Garands, I don't know what condition there in, I have all the M1's I need-SDH
Korea also has M1 carbines and 1928 Thompsons along with everything else US from that time period. Maybe even aircraft and armor.
There was a rumor about a lot of British, Canadian and Australian stuff left behind as well.
The US also supplied them with a bunch of Arisakas, with ground crests and converted to 30-06. Supposedly, they still have them. Don't forget all of the captured com bloc stuff they gathered as well.
Other than British, US, surplus Japanese and captured com bloc stuff, there is a good possibility that there is a lot of Eurpean stuff stashed away as well.
With the former E-Bloc guns its not about the quality, much like the Jap guns its about the variety! There are close to 300 variations and counting, Many of these are quite rare and expensive. I don't believe we are running out of milsurps, I think more people are getting into them making the availability a little more competitive.-SDH
I heard that Russia has a lot of G43 rifles stored. Maybe someday they will be released like the Russian captured K98 rifles were.
Rumor has it though that they are asking too much money for them currently to be profitable for US companies to import them and sell them. I don't know about that as those rifles have gone up a lot in value here lately and just the parts would be big business. Maybe Russian law is preventing exportation. Ray
The old Chinese/Japanese/US Lend Lease guns were imported from China 20 years ago, I doubt anything of that kind is left in Armories now. Omega in Arizona has the dregs of those Imports rusting away in their Warehouse, a friend has viewed the stuff in Arizona and there is nothing really worth buying (Junk M53/44 Mosin-Nagants and Chiang Kai Chek Mausers and Mauser 1896 pistols).
Hi Jean, I was referring to the stuff left behind in South Korea. Rumor has it that they have warehouses full of the stuff from many different nations. It may be just that though rumor.
I was hoping the rumor might be true, when South Korea announced they would be selling off a bunch of M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, M28 Thompsons and 1911s. I was hoping that the other stuff, left behind by other participating nations might be up for release as well.
Vietnam, still has, again rumors, quite a bit of stuff in storage. I also hear it's been poorly stored and maintained. The US, left a bit of everything they had there. Don't forget the French, Japanese and Germans.
I recently watched a movie about Viet Nam. It was filmed there and was obviously edited by the communists. It was a story about a couple of lovers that had been thwarted by French overlords. There were a lot of neat rifles and handguns in the movie. French, German, Japanese and Russian. They spanned quite a time period as well. Not a great story line and sub titled but the weapons used were educational if nothing else. One interesting thing, many of the rifles, entrusted to the Vietmamese were black powder versions, single shots that looked like old Muratas.
I hate to shift gears in mid stream, so I'll most likely be getting another Mosin, but, no more doubles! I finally weeded out most seconds, and am focusing on none recent imports, MO's, Finns, Dragoon conversions by the year and sniper rigs, M91's and will consider other models if they call me load enough! I'm running out of space, so am considering, moving out the family! SDH
Isn't it about time for AK47's?