Looking for opinions on this sling. Real or Repro?
Any input appreciated
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Looking for opinions on this sling. Real or Repro?
Any input appreciated
I'm really just a beginner and I'm tempted to say "Real" (looks like a nice slin) but what bothers me about this particular sling is the corrosion on the male part of the snap. Unless it was "aged" seperately and then assembled into its present form, I'd expect some "green" staining of the webbing into which it was originally installed. I don't think that would ever wash out. But like I said, I'm no expert. Others here are so maybe they can help straighten this out
Doesn't look right to me. The webbing is suspect among other things.
My guess based on the sling tip crimp would be repro, but the more I think I know, the less I find I really do.
Bill Ricca......Where are you?
Here are some different marked ones I have. They are real.
Jim
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...rbine004-1.jpg
how about a shot of the top of the snap portion. agree with Jim on the weave of the webbing.
Post a picture of the fastener and any markings.
WW2 carbine slings are woven with 2 distinct sets of yarns or threads. Briefly, the werp threads run lengthwise and the weft threads run side to side or edge to edge. All of the genuine slings that I have seen use a plain weave. The diagonal pattern of the sling in question indicates that it has been manufactured with a twill weave. Most likely a re-pop. Respectfully
The description that there was one weave pattern is a myth. There were several different weave patterns, although the standard one was approx. 90% of all production.
This crisscross pattern has been found on Quality Hardware and Inland. Some have the flat slide, others have this circular slide (buckle). This weave pattern has been found in Khaki only.
Here is an Inland sling circa mid to late 1943.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...cross_kf-1.jpg
No myth here. The twill pattern in the genuine US sling has all the characteristics of US mfg.- no matter what the fabric is used for. The "technical'" face of the fabric is slightly different than the reverse. Also, the outside werp (thread) runs in one direction, while the other edge runs in the opposite direction. Compare the real thing to the re-pop. Thread count & weave ratio are other considerations in determining authenticity.
You are correct in large percentage of production, but not all of it. I have had in my possession since 1971 over 1600 original WWII slings and I can tell you the Khaki fabric varied. When production was on, there was an occasional input of fabric from different suppliers. Not much, but it did happen. You are talking about the bulk of production, not the exceptions.
There were also dot fasteners on all Ordnance contract slings, except for one producer out of Rhode Island. That company use Rau Fasterner hardware which was marked "Klikit Pull". If I recall the contract was from late 44 thru mid 45.
According to your description the above Inland is not GI? Wrong, as I said I have had both Inland and Quality Hardware Slings with Crisscross patterns. This Inland was removed from the package to get this picture.
It does not show up well, but here is the same crisscross pattern out of the Quality Hardware package:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../04/qual-1.jpg
Sometime in the future when I dig out my 65 plus slings I will take a better picture of this one.
Need to see the top of the fastener too.
I have had one sling I know was authentic and the weave was very similar to this one without the cross weave.
(Type I slings were a hobby before their prices got out of hand for me)
Take a good macro close-up of the 'punch' mark
What is this sponsored links section below Bill Ricca's post?
I see three links, and they change. Once I saw a Riverbank link. I don't think Bill would be sponsoring or sponsored by Geroge of Riverbank.
What the hell's going on?
Are we being "hacked"? :sos:
If so, I don't like that. And will stop posting so as not to be wrongfully associated to someone like that with a hacked attachment.
Jim
' I don't think that would ever wash out'
You would not wash a web sling. If it must be cleaned, dry clean it with Naptha (Coleman Fuel).
The hardware looks great but the web looks too 'fuzzy'. I can't say one way or the other.
Here are a few more pics
It is legit.
looks legit to me. and I have handled one or two myself.
Hi Jim ... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JimF4M1s
Please read the anouncement ....
Google Ad-sense (Beta Testing) - Military Surplus Collectors Forums
We don't provide any ads. They are generated by Google. ;)
Thanks ...
Regards,
Doug
Ditto on legit.
Thanks for all the input on the sling!
Check this one out, $380!! Yikes, someone really wanted this one
Early Tan Khaki US WWII M1 Carbine Sling rifle - eBay (item 370369772754 end time Apr-30-10 18:10:40 PDT)
$380........WOW
Snipe bid placed with 7 seconds left to win it.
Surely a record for a sling (?)
Regards,
Charlie-painter777
Bid History,
eBay.com Item Bid History
Hello Jim (and others with questions) .. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JimF4M1s
I queried Google about their content and indicated that there were some advertisers that our membership found objectionable posting on our site.
They informed me that we could BLOCK the web site of any advertiser we don't want to appear in the Google Ad-sense content they send through.
So, I immediately registered Riverbank's URL address this morning to block it and Google said it might take about 24 hours to become effective, however, I haven't noticed a link to it since noon, so I think he's gone ... :thup:
Hope that meets with everyone's satisfaction ... :cheers:
Regards,
Doug (Badger)
Hello Badger...
You did a great service to your membership.
Yes, most of us found the Riverbank ads offensive, but I think most of us feared that the "endorsement" would sway new members who hadn't gotten the word yet.
May I suggest a new thread on the subject? I started to do it myself, but it's your forum and your post. It would get more attention coming from you........As if you have time to cruise every thread......
Thanks,
Phil
Edited: 5/3/10
10:35
Badger, hope you don't mind, I started a new thread on this subject.
Just wanted to get the word out.
Phil
I own this sling's twin, and it is an exact match for a couple on that page, given that the dates are mostly obscureed. Checked it against every photo and comment here to be sure/triple-check.
My EXQUISITE (to me) Post-War Rebuild Underwood is now properly, um, slung. And oilered.
Pleased with life..............
Is this sling real or fake and is it possible to tell who made it if it is real?
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