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Here are a few of the aftermarket rear sights available for the K-31.
The Furter replaces the entire leaf and is adjustable for windage and elevation.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...urter_1a-1.jpg
The Sahli is elevation only.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...Sahli_7c-1.jpg
The Grunel is both front and rear sight assemblies, windage and elevation.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...runel_6b-1.jpg
The Furter is a good sight. I prefer the Hämmerli with the higher frontsight blade. Not the cheapest with $131 but very good.
Regards
Gunner
Just on the furter,
Anyone got instructions for the use of or better still can anyone explain how the sight works etc
or can some one translate the words under the pics
cheers
NED
The Furter replaces the original leaf and slide assembly. On the right side you have two knobs for elevation and windage. The knob detents are in the 1-2moa area I think. Very basic operation. If you are going to shot at or under 100yds you may need a taller front sight
Translation for : Sight correction by Furter
Elevation and windage adjustment in one element. Mounting is allowed only by an gunsmith. Allowed for service use on distances from 100m up to 500m. At a distance of 300m every single click changes the POI of 20 millimeters in height or side. The smaller knob is for elevation the bigger one is for windage.
Hope it helps
Regards
Gunner
Looks familiar. :)
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...djusters-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...urter_1a-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...runel_6b-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...Sahli_7c-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...iptop_7d-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...merli_8e-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...Girex_8f-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ffman_9g-1.jpg
T=Low, Tief
H=High, Hoche
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...10100223-1.jpg
L=Links, left
R=Rechts, right
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...10100212-1.jpg
fellas,
bloody excellent info
was the furter ever accepted and used on a issue basis? That is issued as standard on rifles or an after market thing?
Again really excellent feedback, many many thaks
cheers
NED
The Furter was accepted but not as a basis, only as an aftermarket and you have to pay it by yourself.
Regards
Gunner
OK
just got my furter sight,
another billy lid question.
once it is on the rifle and have it zeroed correctly, is there any method or adjustment to the sight so it can be re set to its corresponding markings?
Is the elevation adjustments calibrated for the elevation changes of the standard GP11 round?
If I have it zeroed at 100 and the elevation reads 400 for instance sake can I get it back to 100 on the knob without changeing the elevation? i.e. like loosening the knobs and resetting?
Same for the windage, I know that it will chnage with different conditions but If I have it zeroed can I make the indications on the knob read zero?
Please be patient with me, I have had a lot of experience with Parker hale sights, central, mues etc etc on other rifles but not one like this furter,
cheers and thanks
NED :bow::bow::bow::bow:
Hey Trooper;
Where did you obtain this dandy little attachment in Australia...?
Made by furter you say...? I wonder if his first name is Frank, hmmm...?
Sorry; I just had to get that one in, although I seem to recollect that the ferter family came from the town of Saveloy, not far from Frankfurt, or was it Weenie?
Seriously now, did you import said ferter, or did some kind soul get it for you?
Being an East Coast man myself (sunny Surfers Paradise) the local gunshops over this neck of the woods give you the "stunned mullet" look if you dare to ask them for anything other than a .308 or a 12 guage.
Reply would be appreciated.
Cheers,
Uncle ray,
Imported from the states.
I believe they where allowed for service shooting if brought at own cost. remembering that i at least know very little of how the swiss forces operated and they seemed to be a bit more forgiving in allowing extra equipment to be used.
I am keen to get it on my K31 when it arrives, a dealer in QLD is importing them from germany.
contact on my e-mail if interested
thekellyclan2@bigpond.com
They are very popular at my club here in the west and have been proven to be more accurate then even a swede mauser.
cheers
NED
I haven't shot mine enough to be 100% certain but as far as I can tell from the elevation calibration is for the GP11 ammo.Quote:
Originally Posted by trooper554877
As far as getting the rifle's POI to correspond to the sight marking I have ordered taller front sights and well modify as required.
Calibrated for GP11.Quote:
Originally Posted by trooper554877
Numbers are in meters, not yards.
1 meter = 1.0936133 yards
100m = 109.36yds
200m = 218.72yds
300m = 328.08yds
400m = 437.44yds
500m = 546.81yds
Does not re-zero. That would be very confusing indeed
Best bet is a to keep log book with the rifle to keep track of the settings at the distances you will be shooting at, along with what load it was, the conditions, sun angle, wind speed and direction, which shooting position you're firing from, be it resting, prone with sling....etc. Also what targets you are using at which distance, and whether it was a center, 6 o'clock, or sub 6 hold. Temperature, humidity, altitude and if there is a slope from shooting position to target position might prove useful too.
All of these can and do affect your point of aim.
Keep track of all your corrections.
It took me awhile to figure out every rifle needs a log book! I think that's the first thing you should do when you decide to keep a rifle as a regular shooter. Excellent advise Diopter.Quote:
Does not re-zero. That would be very confusing indeed
Best bet is a to keep log book with the rifle to keep track of the settings at the distances you will be shooting at, along with what load it was, the conditions, sun angle, wind speed and direction, which shooting position you're firing from, be it resting, prone with sling....etc. Also what targets you are using at which distance, and whether it was a center, 6 o'clock, or sub 6 hold. Temperature, humidity, altitude and if there is a slope from shooting position to target position might prove useful too.
All of these can and do affect your point of aim.
Keep track of all your corrections.