Hard to tell about these things these days!
http://cgi.ebay.com/REAL-USGI-FLIP-S...item2c5517549d
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Hard to tell about these things these days!
http://cgi.ebay.com/REAL-USGI-FLIP-S...item2c5517549d
I would pass.
That sight looks real to me. Dang it is so flippin hard to tell!!!
I have no idea, but here's another case of the pics are so bad you can not tell...
the side shots have some much light reflection that you can not get a good look at the texture, color or markings.... If they don't want to sell it bad enough to take good pics, I would pass on it...
This seller has several flip sights for sale and I would question at least one of them. He also has a type 1 barrel band he thinks is real but I for one would not buy it. You just have to love it when they coat them with a pound of grease.
I don't like it. Looks too good. No wear or handling marks.
They are all mine and I guarantee you are passing on the real thing......but I would guess you prefer pictures taken from 15 feet away...
Your loss......
And as always you can ask for more pictures....
Hired gun, this forum is for the passing on of information and there is a great deal of very knowledgeable folks here on this site. We have all looked a grip of sights and there are guys here that can look at one, from 15 feet, and tell its originality. If I had a dime for every person that claimed a site or barrel band they had for sale was the real deal that turned out not to be so, I'd be rich. I for one felt your site was real, I will not say why here.
My suggestion to you is invest in a good camera with macro settings, use a tri-pod and learn how to utilize proper lighting. Also, you have just joined this site, for which we are thankful, so before you roll in with guns-a-blazin, let us get to know you.
Hired Gun,
First welcome to the site. I have learned alot from the old farts around here - and I plan on learning alot more. They are very good at helping everyone regardless of your collector skill level.
As far as your auction and your comments above, please allow me to bluntly (but in a friendly way) give you my perpective as a potential buyer. I think we all can easily find examples of both parts that are "misrepresented" and parts that are genuine but poorly displayed. That is the point - how does a person 700 miles away look at an item for auction and decide to lay money down for it?
When I buy a car, I want to EXAMINE and ASSESS for myself what I think the value of the vehicle is. I check the tires, walk around the car and take it for a test drive. I do not take as "law" what the salesman has to say, its up to me to decide to I purchase it. I personally do not know anyone that would buy a car based solely on poor quality picture shown to me by a seller I do not know. Additionally, when trying to sell a car, how successful is a seller going to be at getting a good price if he shows off the car with a dirty interior, a bad wax job and cracks in the windshield?
As a collector who uses some of the auction sites to buy parts, I want to SEE what I am buying. Same thing as a vehicle. Do not expect me to be positive about a article that the seller does not make the effort to CLEARLY show me what he is trying to sell.
It's simple - if you want or expect my business, SHOW me what you are selling and do a good job of showcasing the item. Make some effort to SELL it.
Remember, if I wanted PROMISES I would be reading a speech by a politician, not looking at an auction site.
Just the way I see..
The seller is offering a 7 day inspection with returns if not happy.
He also states in his description "If you need more pictures or have questions feel free to ask"
His shipping charges are fairly priced.
Hard to ask for much more than that.......
Maybe he's just not a pro with pictures. Many of us aren't.
FWIW,
Charlie-painter777
P.S. He does have the ZOOM feature, just has a little to much flash.
Charlie, I will kick the dead horse one more time.
You are absolutely right. My fustration is not with the authenticity of the parts. My frustration is the amount of time and number of emails I have sent auction sellers asking for additonal pics or asking basic questions.
As far as a return policy, I am really glad some some sellers do offer that. I personally think it adds value to the item and builds trust, especially if that seller does alot of selling through the auctions. However, I think it is difficult to expect a buyer to purchase the item, send funds, wait and receive the shipping before realizing that it needs to be returned for a legitimate reason. The buyer is out the shipping costs (both ways) just to look at it AND the seller is out, when he could have sold it to someone else who could have used it. I am also sure that an honest seller gets frustrated in having to answer 10 dozen emails about the same thing and send out 6 dozen more pictures. I best, simple answer is to try and post the best pics you can and give the best detail description when you post your item. It saves the bidders time, effort and money AND it saves the seller the time effort and money, too.
I honestly think that taking decent pics is a skill that most people can learn. Look, all us old, gray haired guys have learned to work computers, post pictures and even spend money online! It just takes some reading, asking questions, practice and attention to detail of the product. If I can learn, anyone can! LOL
I am sorry, my friends, for this rant. But I have spent over an hour today with three bad pics from an auction posting trying to determine if the slide posted is the one I need. I have even tried blowing the pics up and adjusting the lighting on them in an attempt to determine any markings. The seller has not answered an email. Guess I won't be bidding on that one... I just hope its not the ONE I need.
Agreed bad pictures don't help any auction, be it the seller or buyer.
But remember we also take into account a sellers feedback. I don't know the man but see that he's had 1351 feedbacks and batting 100%.
Many of his past buyers are members of this forum.
He rates 4.9-5.0 on all Detailed seller ratings.
He offers more pics if needed. That along with a return policy, Delivery confirmation and insured gives me a good feeling about him. Looks like he's not wanting any problems either.
I'm sure he's frustrated also.
He clearly states that he doesn't ship out of the US.
His first question from a potential buyer........... Do you ship to Italy....
AAAARRRRRGGGGHHHHH.
Cheers T-R,
Charlie-painter777
P.S. A few years ago, I couldn't post a picture. My little buddy Harlan took the time to show me.
My Daughter helped me with the new fancy camera and showed me how to put them on the desktop.
T-R,
One last thing......
make sure that horse IS dead. Because they do kick back !!
;-(
Charlie
Now Charlie, what would you know about horses????????????????????????Quote:
Originally Posted by painter777
The question would be,Quote:
Originally Posted by Tired Retired
"Charlie what do you know about horses kicking back"
He has a reply for that one.
I was doing the same thing we do every morning and evening. I was leading 'Big Will' and his little buddy 'Reb' the Quarter horse in for the evening. 'Big Will' walks on your right..... Period. 'Big Will' is high strung, he's only been off the track for almost 2 years now and still has Happy Feet. A trespassing hunters shot rang, the rest of the story just equals hurt.
The horse 'Big Will' and I have a understanding.
I try my best to make sure no trespassers are hunting........
That thoroughbred makes sure I've done that job correctly............
To be honest I'm still feeling that one. 1250+ lbs of spooked horse on your right and about 1100 on your left vs 190 lbs is a no win. Worst of it was the Wife and Daughter having to see it happen. It scared them to death. I was lucky, though it didn't feel like it for a few months. Worst day was here at home laying in a hospital bed when my Daughter left for school. She'd left the TV remote out of reach and I had to suffer thru soaps until the neighbor got home and helped. That cost me a 12 pack. HAH... I'd of bought a case.
I did find that one can heal quicker with a project barreled receiver in hand.
Project carbines.......... That's the cure all.
We better get back on topic.
Cheers,
Charlie-painter777
If you are who I think you are, you have my apologies. Where have you been? Unfortunately your initial photos were not the best and nowdays with the current crop of repros, I always err on the side of caution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hired_gun
Looks Good To Me. The term "witch-hunt" is often used by analogy to refer to PANIC-INDUCED searches for perceived wrong-doers other than witches. The best known example is probably the McCarthyist search for communists during the Cold War, which was discredited partly through being compared to the Salem witch trials.
Paul, as I have stated, I believe the sight is real as well. Remember, perception is evrything!
Possibly knowing who this seller is also makes a difference. He does have a good reputation and offers more photos. Unfortunately I have seen totally righteous and well meaning folks unknowingly sell what they thought were nice parts. But my opinion of passing on this one would not change given the photos that were offered. My main areas of concern were the leaf spring and leaf. With the darker coloration it appeared to have been replaced. The seller admits the spring may have been replaced. The porosity of the metal of the leaf was also a concern. These concerns however can easily be remedied with better photos the seller is offering. Again, given the reputation of this seller and unconditional return you will most likely be fine. In the meantime call me the "Witch Hunter."
Does that mean I can be called "doubting Thomas"??Quote:
Originally Posted by dbarn
:beerchug:
My process in judging parts is to take three steps backwards when judging were the pop fly will land. It seems to be that everyone takes three steps forward and misjudges were the ball will land and misses the catch. The pictures are good enough to determine if it is real or fake. I do think it has been refinished but I still believe it to be authenic. I just hope that everyones rush to judgement has not hurt the sellers chances of getting the most out of his part. I am not calling anyone out but let's be careful when making a determination about other peoples parts. I am just like everyone on this site and hate fake parts but if you are going to collect these things get some knowledge or a good friend who can help you. Just my 2 cents and that is about all it's worth!
Paul,
If you make that 2 cents for each year you have been in the hobby, you are working on a 4 bits piece. I was just telling Charlie, I love the look of the Liberty Walking half dollar coin.
Jim
Thanks Paul, I'm bidding on it!