The old eyes dont seem to like reading Black on a brown background, any tips on changing the colours to get a bit more contrast ?
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The old eyes dont seem to like reading Black on a brown background, any tips on changing the colours to get a bit more contrast ?
Same here. A lighter background would help.
Is this new Khaki scheme some sort of camouflage exercise?
The old "battleship grey" was a bit easier to read.
Or is it a browser thing: Explorer vs. Firefox, for instance.
Does this mean everyone has brown eyes and is full of it?
This must be the start of Global Browning. :(
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o...rgeRESIZED.jpg
Before anything, think we should give Doug and his good lady, a Big thanks regarding the upgrade, colour Seems ok to me, think its more to do with change than anything else, one sign of getting older, we dont like change.
Duke,Quote:
Originally Posted by bigduke6
You're right. I should have acknowledged that first and it's a helluva nice looking overhaul I must say Doug!
:thup:
I think the changes will grow on us, but my tired old work monitor simply won't cope with the new "skin". All the words in the dark brown areas are essentially invisible! The only way I know they're there is when the mouse pointer traverses 'em.
Oh, haven't found the link to the forums yet. I found this thread by using the "new posts" button.
This going to bre really tough until I can "see."!
Having the edit functions directly at hand is good- I need all the help I can get....
ETA: How old are the monitors here?- We probably have 40 stations in the shop and they just about all have the "Y2K compliant" stickers on 'em!
Also, not trying to kill the celebratory mood but:
getting script errors as follows (2 of them differing only in the char reported
Line: 1
CHAR: 29 (ALSO) 37
ERROR: SYNTAX ERROR
CODE: 0
URL:https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=22556
ditto, don't want to criticize, nice look and all, if it was a lighter background my eyes would read it easier too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield
Same,Same, brown back ground is hard on old eyes !!!!
BTW, if you get script errors, the best way to get bumped off the site and have to start over is to hit the "yes-no" buttons- just "x" it out! (Five times in three minutes I got "bumped")!
At the very bottom left corner of each forum, there is a color selection box. Select "Military Surplus Light" and voila, white background. :thup:
I think Doug is testing us for our observative qualities. We may be litle slow on the draw but we can still shoot straight. :surrender:
Ok, annoyed now! even "x-ing" the script error message doesn't ensure the thing won't crash- it's especially irritating after hunting down an old thread for someone and about five steps in- almost done- the computer goes ca-phlooey! and bumps me off! Errrrr..Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Getting worse!
Message below:
iexplore.exe Application error
The instruction at "0x77c47fd4" referenced memory at "0x0000000e". The memory could not be "read".
Click on OK to terminate the pgm
Click on CANCEL to debugg the pgm.
Well, "debugging" it seems to be the same as "terminating".
help?
What operating system and version of IE Explorer?
Dunno, not my computer, seeing as i don't own one (again).
I'm thinking all 30 or 40 in this shop are running the same software, so what applies to one will apply to others.- I do know that they have the oddest hook ups to the various remote printers and such, but don't think that's a factor- however, a computer guy I'm not!
All of this shop's stuff are just a small part of the whole system- and we on the floor CAN'T change operating systems or any of that kind of thing.
Is this it?:
internet explorer version 6.0.2900.5512
on windows xp professional 5.1.2600 service pack 3 build 2600
I think some of us early users didn't have all the features available- I even went into my users setup page (What the correct name is escapes me right now and I'm afraid to look for fear of "crashing") and tried to change it there- no dice! Work in progress I reckon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramboueille
JM,Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
If you can't do anything about it, then it's all academic. It's hard to understand why a company would install the latest service packs for XP and leave the old IE 6 in place.
Here is your problem, I've seen it before:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899811
Attached photo is self explanatory. This may be only on my machine but I have made no changes and use an enlarged default Windows font of 107% for clarity.
I don't dare try to download whatever's on that link! I LIKE having a job. We get "updates and revisions" all the time w/ dire warnings about monkeying w/ the equipment. That's one big reason I was a "lurker" for so long!
Hi .. :)
We're going to post a more detailed status report for everyone in the next few days, covering the changeover and some other ongoing development issues we're looking at.
However, I wanted to intercede in this post to validate a few things, including what Ramboueille pointed out. Most problems people will have, other than not liking the dark colour scheme (which is why we have a lighter WHITE version already mentioned), is with their Internet Browsers.
IE6 by Microsoft (released August 27, 2001) for Windows operating system machines is not just outdated, after 9 years of use it's obsolete and many web sites no longer support it, with some actually blocking it when their software does a "browser type" check and discover a user is attempting to login with it. :lol:
Anyway, I'd recommend people perform a simple upgrade on their Windows based machines as it's going to be absolutely critical as HTML5 and other changes to software technology start coming on-line in the next six to twelve months. It's one of the primary reasons we had to change to vBulletin v4.0.4pl1 and move away from v3.67pl1 for running this site, which was almost 3 years old and declared unsupported and obsolete by the authors of vBulletin.
Spefifically, we've tested this v4 software running on Apple MacBook Pro with OSX Leopard 10.6.4 using FireFox 3.6.6 and Safari 5.0. We also tested it on an standard PC running Windows XP with the current IE8 (Microsoft Internet Explorer V8). It's also been tested extendively on Apple iPads, Apple iPods, Aple iPhones, RIM Blackberries and several other graphics PDA's and phones.
It runs fine without any line clipping or other anomalies, as shown in the attached pics. :thup:
FireFox 3.6.6 and Safari 5.0 (light and dark color schemes)
Attachment 13813 - Attachment 13814
Microsoft Internet Explorer V8 (light and dark color schemes)
Attachment 13815 - Attachment 13816
More to follow in the next few days .... :)
Regards,
Badger
Doug,
Thank you, the testing is very tedious with all software available for use and I can imagine the time it took.
To add a comment and to enlighten JMoore, IE6 is not only obsolete, it's a security disaster waiting to happen. No one enjoys upgrading, but there are times that for your own safety, the safety of your employer, and for web site security, it's not only recommened, it's required. IE8 runs just fine with XP / XP Pro, SP3. It's a transparent upgrade.
To build on an earlier post which showed members who preferred a much brighter display how to change that, here's a post in another thread that everyone should read, particularly those members who haven't looked at the very bottom left corner of the web site. :thup:
I don't like it...... (click here)
Regards,
Doug (Badger)
Doug,Quote:
Originally Posted by BadgerHi .. :)
We're going to post a more detailed status report for everyone in the next few days, covering the changeover and some other ongoing development issues we're looking at.
However, I wanted to intercede in this post to validate a few things, including what Ramboueille pointed out. Most problems people will have, other than not liking the dark colour scheme (which is why we have a lighter WHITE version already mentioned), is with their Internet Browsers.
Anyway, I'd recommend people perform a simple upgrade on their Windows based machines as it's going to be absolutely critical as HTML5 and other changes to software technology start coming on-line in the next six to twelve months. It's one of the primary reasons we had to change to vBulletin v4.0.4pl1 and move away from v3.67pl1 for running this site, which was almost 3 years old and declared unsupported and obsolete by the authors of vBulletin.
Spefifically, we've tested this v4 software running on Apple MacBook Pro with OSX Leopard 10.6.4 using FireFox 3.6.6 and Safari 5.0. We also tested it on an standard PC running Windows XP with the current IE8 (Microsoft Internet Explorer V8). It's also been tested extendively on Apple iPads, Apple iPods, Aple iPhones, RIM Blackberries and several other graphics PDA's and phones.
It runs fine without any line clipping or other anomalies, as shown in the attached pics. :thup:
FireFox 3.6.6 and Safari 5.0 (light and dark color schemes)
Attachment 13813 - Attachment 13814
Microsoft Internet Explorer V8 (light and dark color schemes)
Attachment 13815 - Attachment 13816
More to follow in the next few days .... :)
Regards,
Badger
Perhaps you can reassure on this:
I believe IE7 is the minimum requirement for function and security purposes. I have a few machines I use and one is XP Pro & IE7 with all updates. There have not been any issues here so far. For those that are using IE7 fully updated and XP/XP Pro SP3, you may be able to "skate" without any updates.
R.
Security is not my concern, but i think that seeing how the company easily has over 15-20,000 computers (at one per about 3 employees), somebody over in the IT area has a handle on it...( besides just three weeks ago they did a 3 hour software update to this machine, seems they could have done that upgrade then...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramboueille
I figured out that I was crashing when I was not patient enough and overran this circa 2003 computer's processing capabilities and confused it. If I wait just a bit after getting a script error and ensure that the green bar at the bottom of the window is gone, it won't crash.
So I'm a bit slow, but what else is new?
Maybe this will help someone else having dramas with older equipment.
Oh, and the "thanks" function is fine now! Thanks, Badger and team!
:dancingbanana:What a difference!!! Nothing wrong with the new colours or operation on a friend's regular old PC (w/ a fancy flat screen 17"x10" monitor).
VERY NICE.:super:
First time I've had a chance to see it on the "outside". Sorry for all the grumbling, but most of my Milsurps.com time is on equipment over which I have no control. (The upside is that I didn't pay for it!:lol:)
The downside is that I've no idea when I'll have real free time to use this site at a s l o w pace, rather than the usual "blitzing" through threads.
:D:lol:;)
Multi-thanks!
Doug,Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger
Any solution for this:
Struggling With The Colour
I've played with font sizes here to no avail. It looks like the box is not centered vertically in the software.
Just sitting on a plane typing on my iPad, but I thought I'd ask for a clarification. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "centered".
Evrything appears fine on the test platforms we use, unless I'm looking at the wrong area.
Thanks for the feedback. :)
Regards
Doug
Doug,Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger
Ha, Ha, on the plane! :lol:
The graphic is a screen shot, red box around it. Two lines of text on right for "Unread Messages." I can only see half of the second line's text. It doesn't show that for you?
I see:
Vista 64, IE8
"Forum" and the next line under describing what forum only shows half the text line vertically. I'm on a 22" Dell WS monitor 1680 x 1050 default resolution. Let me play with this some more......... I think I'm "losing it!" :( :D
Edit: Same on another computer and monitor 1600 x 1200.
XP Pro 32, IE7
Main forum screen is fine.
I still may be confused on what you're saying, only because I'm not seeing any anomalies at all on all our test bed platforms, including PC's, Apple MacBooks, Apple iMac's, iPads, iPhones and Blackberry PDA's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramboueille
So, just for clarity, are you saying the function of "New Posts" display, as shown in the attached pic, is causing you graphic anomalies on the system configurations you mentioned?
Thanks for the feedback ... :thup:
Regards,
Doug
Doug,Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger
Yes, that is correct. I access other forums using vBulletin with no issues. "New Posts" display lines are the only issue here. My hardware/graphics are mainstream with all updates both machines.
Also, I don't see a "user CP" box readily accessible. Nothing above I can't live with........
Ok, so "New Posts" screen is the issue. I have no idea what's different about how it displays versus any other screen so I'll have to find a way to duplicate the problem on some piece of hardware we don't currently have. Can you drop your resolution as a test to 1280x1024 and tell me if that clears it up on that specific screen?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramboueille
As far as the UserCP (User Control Panel), they now call it "Settings" in vBulletin v4. Check the attached pic and I've shown two ways I've found (so far) of accessing that area. :lol:
Regards,
Doug
No change @ 1280 x 1024 (nVidia 9800GT vid card).
Doug, don't knock yourself out over this. I can hover the mouse to see the 2nd line.
Can you send me a screen pic?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramboueille
Also, does it happen with the "lighter" version as well?
Thanks .. appreciate the troubleshooting ... :)
Regards,
Doug
Doug,Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger
Both colors. "Unread Messages" only.
Another quirk.
When adding tags to threads, if I click on the pop-up selection of previously entered tags, the system kicks me off the thread, back to the main menu, w/o entering the tag. If i type out the whole thing it works fine.
That might be your IE6 interacting badly with the more current versiobs of Javascript, but I'll look into it ...Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Thanks for the feedback .. :)
Regards,
Doug
This is the same issue I have on all the Windows machines and Firefox. I've run screen rez and font size up and down and the anomaly just tracks with it.
Attachment 14035
Bob
Bob,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Womack
I thought I was losing my marbles, no one else mentioned the same issue. Yours is exactly the same I have with IE8 so the browser makes no difference.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Womack
I've been running tests on this specific anomaly for most of last week. So far, I've tried four different Windows based machines with different versions of Windows and different configurations. At his point, I haven't been able to duplicate the problem, but we're still looking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramboueille
Once we can do that, then perhaps we can find out what's common to both your environments or settings that's causing it, so we can perhaps create a fix. May you two guys can contact each other privately and compare notes on what you both have in common from software and hardware points of view?
Thanks for the feedback .. :thup:
Regards,
Doug
Apparently, our site developer has heard some "rumblings" in vBulletin's support area about this issue of line clipping in "search, for lack of a better expression... :thup:
So, stand by for more transmissions as I get updates... :)
Regards,
Doug
Bob.... :)
Reference your PM....
The PM environment doesn't permit file attachments, so I thought I'd put them here.
Here's my FireFox 3.6.6 settings for fonts and sizing...
Perhaps Ramboueille and you can try these and let me know if they work for you, because they were the defaults as delivered with FF 3.6.6, plus I don't see clipping using them. :thup:
I'm curious as to whether this solves your problem and I do think what you outlined in your PM is narrowing the gap as to why this is only happening on certain machines. :bow:
Regards,
Doug
Fixed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Badger
Vista 64, IE8 & XP Pro 32 IE7:
Tools > Internet Options > Accessibility > Uncheck > "Ignore Font Sizes" & "Ignore Font Styles." :)
Yes... :clap:
:dancingbanana:
Regards,
Doug
It's interesting that the previous version of vBull didn't and doesn't do this. I'm still visiting several sites with older revisions of vBull and am able to use the minimum font size to my advantage. Sure wish they'd change whatever routine that has made their display picky.
Bob
Bob,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Womack
Same here, even on other vBulletin V4 unrelated sites. Font adjustments made just for here. Vbulletin support is quick to say it's not from their end but it is. Nothing I can't live with and overall, it's nice and crisp on Milsurps. :thup:
The first time I logged-on to the new site I just about went NUTS, which some say is not a very far trip for me. Yes I am old and like most really hate change but after a few times have not had any problems and now am able to navigate quite easily. I think I like the new site better it just takes time to accept the change. I have a Panasonic Toughbook (no I don't sell computers) using IE8 and XP which seem to work well. One thing is I have had MAJOR problems with my search engine even on this site over the last month or so and spent 6 hours with a computer genius and he found my AntiVirus was not stopping Trojans and one had taken over my search engine. The strangest thing is I don't go to "strange/risky" sites so the person(s) who are attaching Trojans are now putting them on legit sites. I have a new AntiVirus (one I must pay for) and now this site is perfect with no problems at all. I do like the new color and Doug you and your wife have done a great job on this.
Thanks partner, appreciate that ... :thup:Quote:
Originally Posted by enfield303t
We don't often get feedback about what we do right, only what's wrong ... :lol:
Regards,
Doug
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