Aside from hand loads I am curious what people are finding to be the most accurate 7.62 ammo on the market. I have heard the Polish surplus coming out recently has been quite good. Any info is appreciated.
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Aside from hand loads I am curious what people are finding to be the most accurate 7.62 ammo on the market. I have heard the Polish surplus coming out recently has been quite good. Any info is appreciated.
dunno about commercial stuff. I have some Berdan primed stuff that beats hell out of my shoulder and shoots pretty tight groups out of my full length MN.
I have finally found a load that holds a tight group from my carbines. 15 Grains of Unique under a 155 grain gas check .308 lee bullet cast from wheelweight. Odd that the long gun splatters the same load all over the paper... still playing around looking for a good load for that one ...
I just purchased my 1st MN M91/30. Its a 1943 Tula with a CH marked barrel. The bore appears to be very good. I'ld like to also know what otheres have found to be the most current accurate ammo.
I would like to know as well...I've been shooting 147gr FMJ Mil Surp from a spam can... out to 200yrds it appears to shoot very nice... 180gr Win are 3in groups at 100yrds... Would like to find or reload ammo so I DO NOT want to attach the bayonet to get better accuracy... The bayonet just looks way bad should a game/ law officer show up, I can't imagine explaning that one!!???
The bottom line is what may work well in one rifle may not be the best performer in another. The best way to go is try to pick up some small lots of different ammo if you can and try them in your rifle. Some of the best shooting milsurp ammo I have had was Polish and some of the worst was also Polish (50s dated Polish Heavy Ball) so you never know. I will say however that other than the 50s Polish HB; I haven't shot any surplus 7.62x54r that I would consider bad. Most all of it in a good rifle would shoot 2.5MOA or better.
I shoot a Finn M39. I have a bunch of old brass case Bulgarian 182 gr yellow tip heavy ball, works great but not sure it is as accurate as the light ball. I have shot Wolf modern 150 gr ammo, and that is accurate enough but more expensive. I recommend you get a spam can of Russian or Hungarian 149 gr light ball, both should do just fine in the Mosin rifle. Aim surplus has a bunch of Romanian on sale right now, I have no idea how that stuff shoots.
I got the Russian 7.62 x54rmm from Aim Surplus 147 gr FMJ hols a 2 inch group at 100 yards its acouple of buck more than the Romanian The Russian ammo shoots well and is very clean and bright
Will have to pick up a little of everything. I have a Finn Capture PE sniper that I will be rescoping and I also have a unissed m39 that I recently picked up. Have not tried either but looking forward to it.
The Winchester 180 seems to work well as well as the Pri Partisan. The russian stuff opens up a bit more and is corrosive which means clean your rifle afterwards
Will have to try them out. I just got my bent bolt back from BOLTMAN, and have yet to fire the rifle. Was at the range yesterday but don't have any ammo to feed it. The local DICK's has stopped carrying ammo and firearms, and no one in the area sells anything.
S&B did a run of Boxer primed, brass cased, 174gr Sierra Matchking bulleted ammo some time back, but it may have been 8-10 years ago. Haven't seen any (for sale) in a while!
One thing you really want to do with any M/N 91/30 or any variant thereof is slug the barrel. Reason being is that there is a huge amount of variability in the land diameters in the barrels. I have two 91/30s myself. One has a land height of .307 and a groove of .314. The other has a land height of .309 with the same .314 groove. Obviously, one of the two rifles will accurately fire .308s and the other one will not!
So, my cast bullets are thrown at .312 and sized at .311. I use a Lee 2 chamber 150gr mold and (currently) a 10 pound smelter. The lead is a Linotype/reclaimed mix that gets about an 18 Brinell (sp?) hardness. Even so, it still gets a gas check so I can get up above 2200fps without leading the barrel.
Now, for a real zippy load, try this- .310 diameter 123gr Hornady jacketed SP (usually used for 7.62x39) with 50gr of IMR 4895. I love the results I've gotten out of that load! Don't have any pictures for proof so I'm not going to go bragging right now, but it works very well. Recoil is slightly higher than the Serbian PRVI Partisan commercial load, but still very manageable.
I haven't tried sabot loads yet, but those should be quite entertaining.
Off the shelf, the PRVI wins for me. Not in the least because I can reload the brass. It seems to stay consistent around 2700fps and the brass comes out needing only very little resizing at the neck.
I keep some of the Bulgarian silver tips around just for argument's sake. Also have some unmarked surplus rounds that are still in the old paper battle packs. Figure if I ever need those, things must have gotten bad in a hurry
Will keep it in mind. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Darkwolfe
And I found something last night that I needed to add. Be sure to inspect the case necks on the Winchester brass carefully. I had one from a once-fired batch that showed a massive amount of micro-pitting in the brass and in fact had a 1/8 inch split at the case mouth. I get the feeling that particular piece of brass was not formed under the correct conditions. So be aware that there are a few iffy cases wandering around that initially look fine.
Found a box:Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...stuff003-1.jpg
It used these fine projectiles:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...tuff0041-1.jpg
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Hello,
Can you find any Czech silver-tipped light ball?
7n1 is awesome stuff as well, but I've only seen it once -- and it was very expensive. Supposedly none got to the West, but I did see that one box.
Most of the ammo has bullet and powder weights all over the place. If you were to purchase a scale and single-stage press, you could "Mexican load" the surplus into something approaching 7n1 quality by sorting bullet weights and standardizing powder charges.
Josh
Ammotogo.com had some of the Czech silver tipped last year and I scooped up a couple hundred rounds for the stash. They might still have some. I'd go look, but I can't reach the website from the work PC. :(