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The grain in the wood, because of age, oiling, and wartime use, should have overgrown the original stamping/markings. This will give an indication of how genuine the Carbine is. Check these pics out, Bomb and IO. Be very suspicious of anything that looks like it was stamped yesterday. Thanks to all who have posted good stuff and asked good questions of late. Cheers, Mike. Attachment 20258Attachment 20259
Mikey, good example of what to look for. That should help people out.
Thanks.....Frank
P.S. how's the wether down there?
Far too hot Frank, getting over 30 degrees ! Won't last for long though. Hope this is not political, but the news is, my grandfather, who was on Guadalcanal on the Cats, predicted to me, when I was a youngster, that "THEY" would come back ! And they have been too, stealing our whales and fish. Have been doing so over recent years. However they decided to "withdraw today". Thanks to some financial backing for those on the protesting boats from good friends of theirs up your way. Cheers Mike.
Nice handguard, I think a Type I with the wide sight groove?
Attachment 20311Hey Mikey, Now this is a CAT!!.....Frank
P.S. think gramps was right
Frank,
Why are you showing kittens.
Now these are Cats!
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...2/CatD11-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...erpillar-1.jpg
Jim, those are "BIG CATS".
That is my D8H, I sold it about five years ago to a contractor in Mexico. It weighes over 73,000lb. Has a 13' blade and 300HP. It was my favorite of the three I had going. When I shut down my excavating business I sold everything myself online.
I kept some toy's though. A Case 1150E dozer, Cat 930 wheel loader, a JD 690 excavator and a tandam dump truck. I call my property my sand box and those are my sand box toy's.
I still work outside if the job is something I want to do. Otherwise they keep me busy here on my property.
Boy I would love to play with that D11R!!!
Take care.....Frank
The last one I remember being on was a 'Caterpillar 10' and I was probably about 8 or 9 years old. I may have a picture of it somewhere - was pretty small in comparison!
What do you guys think of the markings on these two high-wood RSG stocks? I have my own ideas, but all opinions are welcome. Both show a 'smudge' of blue-green ink in the operating slide channel. - Bob
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Bob, the blue/green ink is a Julian date. Done by the Irwins on RSG stocks and on some Inlands. Some kind of dating system that I still don't understand.
Your second S G looks like the stamp bounced. I think both are real, I have two like them waiting for rifles.
Do your stocks have numbers and letters in the sling well?
I never get tired of looking at nice wood.
Thanks.....Frank
Notice the craftsman like patches done by the furniture makers.
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Hi frank and bob,
Actually the Ink stamps in the Irwin made stocks are not the Julian style dating system, like found on early Inland stocks.
We think the Irwin Ink stamps were shift, work station and or Inspectors markings.
Newscotlander was kind enough to clear this up for me a few years ago.
If you compare the two you'll see Irwin vs Overton Ink stamps are different colors.
I still run across Robert Irwin made stocks to this day that have remarkable repairs done to them.
Bob,
Both S'G' stock stamps look good to me.
Cheers,
Charlie-painter777
Thanks Charlie, I have a HI stock that has 86 4 ink stamp in the slide channel. I took it to mean the 86th. day of 1944. Would that be correct?
The RSG stock that I pictured has the station/inspection stamp. I think I got it now.....Frank
I should have added HI also.
Best I recall you have the Julian dating figured out.
Charlie-painter777
RSG stocks,
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Well Gentlemen, Maybe we should define the meaning of Cat ?? This is what I call a Cat. Mike.Attachment 20518Attachment 20519
Mikey, "Catalina" did not come to mind. When we think Cats we think "Caterpiller".
Did your gramps stay with flying after the war?
Take care.....Frank
Mike,
You have a family history to be proud of.
Funny though, when I think of a Catalina, I think of this car from my teen years.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...catalina-1.jpg
Is a Cat and a PBY the same thing, or just planes with some similarities?
Thanks Frank and Charlie for the stock info. I was really questioning the one that looks like it bounced, it looks almost like ink instead of a stamp - very faint. Here's some more pictures. I can't see anything in the ink of the slide channel other than it's there. I can see the RSG in one sling well, and RS for sure in the other - maybe something after the RS? I've got a repair on one of these that I'm going to wait awhile before showing the picture - it's kind of ugly! - Bob
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Jim, yea that's a car. Love those Pontiacs!!
Bob, looks like 29710, must be the inspector/station stamp that Charlie refered to.
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Originally Posted by USGI
Yes the Consolidated PBY is the "Catalina."