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I have an old turk that I'm parting out and soon all that will be left is the barreled receiver.
Since the receiver is legally considered the gun, what do I do to or with it?
I want to keep it all legal and above board, and since the receiver is unsafe in my opinion, selling it is not an option. I guess I could stick it in a drawer but I want to "dispose" of it I think.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
JDean
Crush it in a big vise or cut it in half with a saw or a torch.
And then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevo
Just throw it in the trash to be taken to the dump?
JDean
Why not? It's not a gun anymore. Maybe make bookends out of it.
You can always cut it into lots of little pieces if you're concerned about someone welding it back together.
The receiver???Quote:
Originally Posted by JDean
I am curious about that. Are you quite sure?
Here in Mauserland, where, heaven knows, they are pedantic about such things, the receiver is not considered a restricted item with compulsory registration. But the barrel is, of course, as is the bolt or bolt head(if separate) i.e. that which closes the chambering on the barrel. Obviously regulators were thinking about the Mauser actions where the bolt head locks into the chamber. The thinking is, presumably, that you can fire a round in a barrel with nothing but the bolt locked in, if you really want to, or fudge up some kind of wedge to hold it in place while hitting the primer with a nail. But with a front-locking action, you really cannot fire anything out of an unbarreled receiver.
That is the key point. You are correctly worried about someone misusing the scrap receiver. Cut or grind the receiver through the barrel ring, so that the ring and the thread are destroyed, and simply bin it. If you are still worried about someone misusing the scrap, use a cutting torch, as that will also destroy the hardening.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDean
Patrick
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Patrick,
In Canada and the US the receiver is considered the firearm. The rest is just parts.
Steve
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Originally Posted by Stevo
Odd, very odd. It is possible to fire a cartridge in a chambered barrel without a receiver. But not in a receiver without a barrel.
Still, in the field of firearms regulation I have learnt to "go with the flow" and not to expect logical thinking from legislators who appear to be unencumbered by practical knowledge of the subject of their legislation!
Anyway, whatever potty regulations one's government has dreamt up, it is quite right and proper to make sure that a receiver that would be hazardous is disposed of in such a way that not even the wildest Bubba can make something out of it again. So slice through the ring with a cutting torch and the thing then really is just scrap metal.
Patrick
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Since you are very concerned with the legality, you could take it to your local P.D. and tell them the situation to have them destroy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JDean
There will be some red tape involved this way, but that is the most legal means to get rid of it.
I don't believe there are any legal formalities in North Carolina pertaining to the private transfer or disposal of a long gun (in this case, the receiver). You can do whatever you want with it. It's not registered to you; you don't have to account for it.
Cut it with a hacksaw, crunch it with a sledgehammer, torch it, bury it, drop it off a bridge into the water, or just take it to the landfill. It's all the same.
M
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Originally Posted by Patrick Chadwick
Patrick!
You've always been one of the most intelligent, eloquent composers I've ever known -
Tell me you didn't really put logical thinking and legislators from any country together in one sentence! ;)
Just trying to get your attention!
- And it worked!
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Thanks for the replies guys.
I'm leaning towards having the barrel removed and sell it and let the gunsmith destroy and dispose of the receiver, if they will do that.
Thanks
In the UK its easy, pretty much every part of a bloomin gun is classed as a firearm.
It's called an oxymoron I beleive. Or a natural redundency. We all have momentary lapses of common sense at times so please allow Mr. Chadwick his brief moment of delusionment. Imagine a politician that actually does the will of the people.Quote:
Originally Posted by cafdfw
Whassat? An Oxford moron? It's just my youthful idealism showing through again. And please observe the delicately inserted "not" in my original sentence!
Grabbing my loaded Fowler's, which I keep within arm's reach in case I feel grammatically threatened, I see that an oxymoron is, in fact "a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction" - peace-loving terrorists, cheerful pessimists and the like. If I continue, it will definitely turn political and arouse the moderators, so I shall desist and leave you to invent your own.
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If you've got an old Enfield receiver/body, one good thing to do with is is to ask someone with a slitting saw (a band saw is a but un pro for this.....) is they'll slit the body vertically in half, front to back. It's suprising what you can learn about the production engineering and mechanical functioning of it when you can actually peer inside. From the mechanical engineering point of view, I used to teach physics and am a firm believer in the 'one picture describes a thousand words' phrase. I used to encourage students to not hesitate to describe something in sketch form at exam times.
But I digress. When I get a few minutes I'll cut one apart myself. Even with the draconian laws of the UK nobody could ever argue that it was a 'firearm as defined' again
I'd probably just surrender it to the police dept. They can surely melt it down or whatever.
you could always use the barreled action as a tomato stake...
Practice some welding skills on it.
Touche' sir. Military Intelligence comes to mind. A good day to you sir.
If it isn't to late, I would highly recommend donating it to a gunsmith, or a gunsmithing school in your area if there is one. This would provide a good practicing base for a smith in training to learn how to do all kinds of things. Drilling and tapping scope mounts, barrel removal...etc.
Just an idea.
If you are a C&R, I believe there is a form you need to submit when you dispose of or destroy a C&R classified firearm.
re: cafdfw
Another possibility would be to wait for an advertised "Police buy-back" event in some municipality near you. They often offer to pay X number of dollars for guns in any condition.......:D