I can't figure out, what they were trying to repair, here:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...krepair2-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...krepair1-1.jpg
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I can't figure out, what they were trying to repair, here:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...krepair2-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...krepair1-1.jpg
The bottom is a sling swivel repair. Not bad either. The pistol grip is a John Q Public repair of a hole with microbed or some sort of equal filler. Sort of stands out like a sore d*ck, don't it?
The second picture is actually of the top of the buttstock. So perhaps they are both, Bubba's?
the stock itself is virtually pristine, with fairly crips stamps. Tight fit and extremely tight lockup. This stock has not seen much use. Nice stock.
Attachment 21130Attachment 21132Military stock repairs are usually indicated by additional markings. this WW2 WRA WB stock has been repaired, note the tall W stamp (also found on the M1903) and the post war P in the box
Sorry I hit some wrong buttons.
If that's the top, it's still not a bad repair. Could be weapon tech. Does it have the W as stated? The other is Barney doing microbed or something. If it's tight then use it. It can never be original again!
Sure looks like the pistol grip has been "shaped" by somebody, it ain't military. Makes me suspect those "crisp" stamps aren't GI, either.Quote:
Originally Posted by finloq
No, 'W' anywhere.
The stock came from Rob at Packrats, if it's been humped, it fooled him as well.
http://www.ammogarand.com/info.html
That looks like walnut to me...what? With a DOD mark.
More:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...97396093-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...91558848-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...50540149-1.jpg
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Originally Posted by browningautorifle
What say you folks, should I be calling shenanigans?
It is definetely walnut.
It has quite a few dents and dings for a humped stock and it was not a premium (price) by any means.
But that was a DOD mark??? Like 1960s. They're around?? I have one here. What am I missing?
OK, looks better in those shots, I take it back ... in the earlier one appeared to be dished behind the pistol grip, a common bubba sanding op to make it sporty.
You know, it could be a 'dutchman' style repair for a knot in the wood. I can't say that I've ever seen one, but I DO have a post-war SA carbine stock with a large knot hole.
Sad it is to be ignorant. What pray tell, would a 'dutchman' style repair be?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaveTail
That's a keyed in piece of wood thet completely fills the damage and usually is hard to see. Very professional.
So the consensus is: USGI with two knot hole repairs, presumably before DOD inspection? Or Bubba (for some reason) drilling out holes and plugging them?
HRA used the 3/8"X3/8" DAS stamp from 4.6-5.6; then they switched to the 1/2"X1/2" DAS stamp, untill the end of production.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
For what it's worth, I have a M1 carbine stock that was through a rebuild that has the same exact round type plug.
No other sign of any damage.
It's been there for a very long time and looks very professionally done - not what you'd expect from your average bubba repair.
That stock has all the earmark characteristics of an HRA stock, complete with 3/8" cartouche, large "back porch" & the unique HRA pistol grip contours.
Yeah, it's been repaired a couple of times. No big deal IMHO.
Well, before I got skittish, this post was just about the strange plug repairs. I have seen them on well used military stocks, but never on a stock that was probably never out of the barracks. This stock has several minor storage dings/dents, but nothing to indicate that it was ever bounced around a battle zone.
So, this stock must have had some flaws that were repaired as shown and still passed the DAS inspector. I had not seen that before.
Relax, that stock is all USGI from the ones I have seen over the past 50+ years.
First, the round inset wood plug is a common fix for "flawed" military stocks that were caught before these same stocks were sent up to finish and install. Not a bad repair and certainly not a structural one.
The offside repair looks like the same material the military used to fix bad holes and gashes. I once took an M1D stock off a rifle to clean and found a giant glob of the same kind of material under the cheekpiece. I know the rifle came from government auctions in the 1990s, so I am confident that no Bubba is monkeying around with this stock.
The material is coarse and never really seemed to dry out thoroughly on the one I encountered. It was easily picked out of the hole and the stock cleaned and re-installed. It probably was an expediency repair for an otherwise usable stock.
If you are satisfied with your seller being upfront and the stock suits you, then it is OK. An honest stock with a little wear and typoical of HRA style stocks. But, all USGI was far as the pics go.
And, I do trust the seller. I have made a number of purchases from him and have conversed with him on a "you and I are working on similar projects, have you tried this?" level as well.