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Two piece camo printed fatigues in the ETO.Engineers in the front line at Canisy,Normandy June 1944.The experiment was short lived.
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Two piece camo printed fatigues in the ETO.Engineers in the front line at Canisy,Normandy June 1944.The experiment was short lived.
I assume short lived because they looked too much like German paratroopers. Or what it because getting replacement fatigues was too hard in terms of the supply sysytem of the time?
Because it looked like the German Fleck camo
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France, July-August 1944. Troops from 2nd Armored Divison with German POW's.
Mark
Your 2nd photo was my Wednesday .............................:madsmile:
Was the Camo pattern used by the Army in Europe the same as the pattern used by the Marines in the Pacific?
Yes - was trying to give context to the first picture "short lived" = July - AugQuote:
Originally Posted by Snafu
I had a few with camo
I was going to post them one a day each day
Do you know what guys it never ceases to amaze me how sometimes the books and the stories get it so wrong......the top picture which is always credited as the 17th Engineers of the 2nd Armoured Division is actually the 41 Armoured Infantry clearing the entrance to the Chateau De Canisy....we went there in 2006 and it hasnt changed....also the theory that it was removed because of "blue on blue" incidents....which actually is a real mish mash of supposistion and no basis...the cammos were issued in numbers to troops of the 2nd Armoured/3rd Armoured/30th Infantry and 2nd Infantry because of the bocage fighting in late June to July 1944..this heavily hedged and green open country lent itself well to the issue of the army pattern cammos....and wasnt withdrawn "en masse" due to it being mistaken for german cammo in fact it was withdrawn as the speed of the breakout rendering it no longer required by the time the troops got into rolling across France and the need for cammos diminished...as eveidenced by the picture of the mix of cammos and normal wools in Barenton which is the 1st week of August 1944 (with the german POWS) you see how the terrain has changed ..plus by then the cammos had all but fell apart due to the nature of the fighting in the "Hedgerow Hell"and normal wools were back in the supply system.
USMC and Army pattern HBTs were very different and were only used by the army fromlate june to august 1944...a few soldiered on until September 1944 there is a famous picture of a 2nd Infanty GI in Brest with a cammo jacket on and this is probably the latest pic of cammos in the ETO.
The Sherman crew pic is interesting......would love to know the history behind that.
Regards
Lloyd
So, it would have been withdrawn and probably burned rather than packed around by QM. Thus the shortage today.
Definatley Jim...you only have to look at that iconic image of Sgt de Frietos in Pont Brocard near Canisy with his coleman cooker and tin of food on the house window sill to see how battered the cammos were becoming by mid July.......and read Bandos Book about combat in the Bocage to see how it (Cammo) was worn as an OUTER garment and how it didnt stand up to the rigours of combat and anyone that has travelled the bocage like we did on our 2nd Armoured "Big trips" in 2004 and 2006 will see that its not "good terrain" for combat and being kind to clothes.
By the time the GIs were "breaking out" of Normandy and swinging into Brittany and south of Orleans and Le Mans up to the Seine the terrain and nature of combat had changed from slow moving inch by inch hedgrow gain.....to miles and miles of rapid advance....thus rendering the need for cammos obsolete.
Great pics though guys...
regards
Lloyd