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There is a Type 1A swivel currently offered on eBay that is marked "UP" . It looks very much like a recent stamp on a genuine (previously unmarked) swivel. Did Irwin Pedersen ever mark their swivels this way? Or, did I-P have that "UP mark on the band, rather than the swivel. The Reisch reference is not clear on this point.
In "War Baby" page 418 it says they used type A variation 2, band unmarked, swivel marked UP or KV-S'G'
i seen that on ebay,,,,,,,looks like a modesto special to me
You didn't post a link to the Ebay one so I can't compare ! If real it will look like this. Hope this helps. Mike.Attachment 23759
here is the link, it is marked up on the band itself
M1 Carbine Inland type I barrel band | eBay
Thanks for the pic of the real one. This is the link of the current (swivel only) offering on eBay M1 Carbine Swivel Coded UP NICE!!!!!!!!! - eBay (item 130529879066 end time Jun-12-11 14:18:29 PDT) Even before seeing your photo, I was thinking the same as phillydude -- that the font lines were just too sharp and crisp for a 68-year-old piece, indicating a recent strike on what looks to be a genuine 1A swivel. Now that I see your real one, I can see the definite difference in font shape and line width. Modesto Menace strikes again!
yeah thats a different auction than the one posted, everything hes selling is bogus
Why do the bogus parts makers have to top it off with grease, or lint? Geeze.
Mike, your UP swivel appears to be in the white. May I ask the serial number range and barrel date on this one?Quote:
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Hello David ! Long time no speak. Great to hear from you. Pics should explain what you want to know. Club have a data sheet on it and Brian Q has some pics. Mikey. N.Z.Attachment 23804Attachment 23805Attachment 23806
Thanks Mikey, I have 1768802 with a 3-43 Underwood barrel and also with a UP swivel in the white. Best regards,
David
I've got a Saginaw S'G' carbine s/n 1829338 with this same swivel, but the band is different. The band has 3 spot welds and it's marked U. There's no finish and it shows some rusting. Is it uncommon to see a U marked band on an S'G'? Thanks - Bob
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Good pics thanks. I'd rather look at Carbine stuff bearing a little rust than that which looks like it was made yesterday !. If we are talking about bands, and swivels this week, I wonder if you folk could keep an eye on the tip shape, and colour, of the barrel band retaining spring that accompany them. There's a few of us collecting info on this. We might learn something if enough data is collected. Thanks. Mike.
Thanks Mike. The band spring in my picture is probably the original. Is the one I pictured the one that's referred to as a "chisel" tip? I'd like to know more about these too. - BobQuote:
Originally Posted by Mikey51