What weapon are 7.62x25 strippers designed to feed?

Got a crate of Czech surplus, it came on 8 rd stripper clips, 5 to a box. I'm guessing the clips charge some sort of SMG. Which one(s)? I have to peel the clips to load my TT33.

This:

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo.../cz26smg-1.jpg

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I've called them CZ26s but there are some alternate designations.
Only had access to one for a few months several years ago, but it was quite efficient.

There's a little recess on the right side of the front hand hold where you can place the charger/clip to help load the magazine.

I thought the 8 round stripper clips were for use in the CZ 52 pistol?

The ammo is, the pistol has no charger guide on the slide like say, Mauser broomhandle.

If it's on clips, it was intended for the submachine gun. The CZ52 pistol is about the only handgun in which this ammo is safe to shoot. MUY HOT!

It works fine in my TT33, but its DIRTY. The little buggers also shred and shed their jackets at first contact with anything, while the core keeps going. Would not want to be hit with one, they'd never find all the grubby little pieces of the bullet.

The Czech is a little hotter than most other flavors of 7.62 Tokarev, but not markedly so. It is perfectly safe in any pistol chambered for 7.62x25 Tokarev. If you do a little internet research, you will find that the TT is actually stronger than the CZ52, and has survived much higher pressures. The Czechs loaded the rounds on strippers for the SMG shown above, but the rounds, per the box labels, were intended for both pistols and SMGs.

I chronographed some of the Czech stuff some years back and it ran near on 1650-1700 fps. I may have gotten some odd ammo, as I can't read the labels. Usually it seems 7.62x25 or 30 Mauser runs 1250-1400 fps, but I'll surely defer to jonnyc. I've heard tales of all sorts on this family of ammo, and have run only the most limited tests.

The most telling thing is that I've never seen any sort of wrecked 30 Mauser or 7,62x25 handgun, so... I just don't want to be the first to do it!

"Generally", .30 Mauser is slower than most 7.62 Tokarev, but not in all cases. I've read tests where some wartime 7.63 Mauser ammo was hotter than some lighter Tokarev fodder. I think most Tokarev velocities I can recall were in the 1450-1550 range.

A late edition of Small Arms of the World calls the submachinegun a Model 24. It also notes that the ammo runs at 1660-1800 fps, but the increase could be due to the longer barrel. It does mention the rounds were loaded to higher than standard velocities, but their sources could have been in error.

Having only handled the one submachine gun, and not having a CZ52 currently, I don't have much way to do a heads up comparison. The only thing roughly in that caliber I have to shoot is a Mauser-and it only eats nice, new ammo!

If you read the Czech 7.62x25 box labels, they always say the ammo is for pistols or pistols and SMGs. I have examples of all known Czech Tokarev boxes, and none say For SMG Only.

OK, then!

Have you shot any over a chronograph?

Just got a PPS43 pistol, but it has a bit longer barrel than the various pistols. Maybe a CZ52 (or a bring-back TT33!) will show up some time soon, and then a test of various ammo types could be done. I think there's a 1000 or 1500 rounds of Czech stuff handy- Don't remember what else...

Here's a link to a site that also lists the Czech ammo as being loaded hotter:

7.62x25mm Tokarev Ammunition for the CZ-52

In actual fact, I was looking for the cheap milsurp ammo that was available recently- but it seems to be gone! Typical.

back in the day, I carried one of those , chambered in 9mm. nice little SMG

Same SMG, but different model number(s). I think the 7,62 versions came along to standardize calibers with the rest of the Warsaw Pact nations.

Perhaps the Czech uploaded their ammo as a minor protest against a fairly forced inclusion into the Communist sphere.

Found yet another confirmation today in my 1977 Jane's Infantry Weapons, which stated that their loads (including the rounds for the Vz52 pistol) were 20% hotter than standard 7,62x25. This is the first reference that specifically included pistols that I've found, which would explain why there's no special marking on the Czech boxes of ammo.

And here's a thing which has bothered me.

I have a 1911 Steyr pistol in the original 9mm Steyr calibre. The Czech chargers work on this pistol; I first became aware of this when a batch of Czech 9x19 was sold here, at a time when Steyr chargers were utterly nonexistant.

Does anybody know: were any 1911/12 Steyr pistols ever converted to handle the 7.62x25?
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None of which I'm aware. 9x19, yes. But have never seen nor read about a 7.62x25 conversion.

As I'm Steyr Hahn-less at the moment, it's pure conjecture, but I can't think of any particular it wouldn't work, unless the body taper is excessive and the rounds bind up in the grip when fully loaded.