WWII British No4T Sniper Rifle - Live Firearms and Shotguns
and this one? I'm no expert but they just look a little unoriginal to me.
Super Rare WW1 SMLE Sniper Rifle - Allied Deactivated Guns - Deactivated Guns
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WWII British No4T Sniper Rifle - Live Firearms and Shotguns
and this one? I'm no expert but they just look a little unoriginal to me.
Super Rare WW1 SMLE Sniper Rifle - Allied Deactivated Guns - Deactivated Guns
Look like horrible made-up bitsas to me. Someone obviously likes their burnishing wheel, bluing tank and stamp set....
Obviously the deluxe model !!!
I'd ask to pay for it with 3.00 bills (pounds or dollars)......:-)##
I,ve seen that finish on a few rifles recently, the No1 Mk 111, wrist has all the signs of gun blue in a bottle. good for small touch ups and even better if the instrutions are followed to the T.
Cant understand all the messing they go to remove the surface rust etc ,when a good boil in de ironised water for twenty minutes and a qick brush over with a scouring pad will produce the original finish if it was heavily rusted.
If you sort the page by price, there is a "nice" reproduction Delisle carbine. Pay attention to the front and rear sights. And (this just floors me), the gun shop will deactivate it upon request. Take a serviceable No.1, make it into a fully functional Delisle and then neuter it. Why not just set a few thousand pounds on fire with a .02 cent match?
I emailed him/her/them a few days ago when I saw that he/she/they were expecting in a WW1 SMLE sniper.....I did mention that I didn't want to buy back any of my repro mounts! Yes, both the PPCo & the 4T are as wrong as a nine bob note. The markings on the 41 Maltby appear to have been engraved on not stamped.....or at the very least very heavily wire mopped after stamping. The bracket hails from I know not where. The No32 is at least the real thing. The SMLE has been heavily wire brushed. The front contour of the PPCo base is wrong as are the screws. Again, the scope is at least a nice original one.
Just my .02 of course. I am not necessarily implying the proprietor is in any way trying to fool anyone....he/she/they may be unaware as to what they have been landed with.
ATB
I guess they could be sold as facsimiles, IF he was an honest dealer, for $1
I do believe that is the case in a lot of situations, and could be selling on commission, so in most cases they dont own the items and just selling for it for the owner, and get a % of the final price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger Payne
The thing what takes the scent of the rifle is the original scopes, (very crafty)
Hmmm - shame really. I think it's fair to say that Arundel does claim to be expert in these things...so...
looks like a really nice example, probably not original as the blueing is a bit too crisp for my liking. If it was as old and original as they say it was it would look more like the one on used guns at the moment, at least they have been honest and told you it had a repro mount for it but the rest were orig.
Fergs
I can't really tell from the pics on this phone, but looked at the pics of the butt socket on the SMLE sniper..are the ***s to the left of the III? I don't think I've ever seen that before.
It's a MkIII. Those extra marks appear to be rust pits or other minor damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anzac15
Fakes in my opinion. The No4, the SMLE and the Mosin-Nagant.
"Ye Olde Punter":D
I personally have never seen an oiler serialized to a gun. Did they do that? Seems like a waste as they can be lost in the field rather easily.
Did they use BSA rifles to build up as WW1 snipers? - I have only seen Enfield ones.
Nearly all the correct ones I've seen have been Enfields but IIRC Rob Hallam's PPCo rifle (which had provenance) & which was sold in the Bonham's auction of his collection back in about 1998, was set up on a BSA made rifle.
ATB