Some days you shouldn't bother waking up.

I must be going to have a bad hair day today, I know my painlevels are up and I tend to get a bit snappy.
Checking on another forum and lo and behold, HEADSPACE.
That same old question, can I just use a field gauge? don't you just feel like smacking them around the ears? no wonder I've got a flat forehead, I'll bet SON has spotted this too.
Maybe we should'nt need gauges at all, after all, with 'O' rings and tape and stretchy brass.... or should we just ask the ammo manufacturers for a range of case lengths for a bit of variation?
Maybe I should go back to bed.

I saw that too and almost responded! The rifle is matching numbers aswell.


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I tried to put it all into a little perspective on a post there earlier in the week AGAIN! I think their ears and eyes are painted on! I do persevere over there a fair bit because they do get a lot of newbie traffic and. well, honestly the guidance they are getting isn't the best around generally. Someone will direct this poor soul to their reference section, he will discover his chamber is banana shaped, machined out of round and had several indian upgrades designed to make it unsuitable for live fire... he will then put on a new bolthead and deem it safe and sell it to his mate as a rare collectable.

yep, maybe I should have stayed in bed today too!

As an aside, Kevin... I will be up your way tomorrow with the High Power guys hopefully. I still havent posted your tool back, should I bring it with me or put it in the post today?

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I tried to put it all into a little perspective on a post there earlier in the week AGAIN! I think their ears and eyes are painted on! I do persevere over there a fair bit because they do get a lot of newbie traffic and. well, honestly the guidance they are getting isn't the best around generally. Someone will direct this poor soul to their reference section, he will discover his chamber is banana shaped, machined out of round and had several indian upgrades designed to make it unsuitable for live fire... he will then put on a new bolthead and deem it safe and sell it to his mate as a rare collectable.

yep, maybe I should have stayed in bed today too!

As an aside, Kevin... I will be up your way tomorrow with the High Power guys hopefully. I still havent posted your tool back, should I bring it with me or put it in the post today?

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ha you turn coat, thought you where'nt shooting with them anymore? I bet you are taking that No6!!!

Have a good one fellas and say Gday to the usuals for me! Gday from WA
cheers
Ned

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Originally Posted by trooper554877

ha you turn coat, thought you where'nt shooting with them anymore? I bet you are taking that No6!!!

Have a good one fellas and say Gday to the usuals for me! Gday from WA
cheers
Ned

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Nah, never a prob with Dave, Matt and the guys... It was the SSAA blokes that I had the problem with.

Looking at shooting the Int. Nat. Match course with my old faithfull No1 then two strings of the Tactical Match, one at 600 and then again at 700 with my lowmount. Will give them your regards, mate!

Back to the op here... I see someone has already confused the poor bugger with talk of tighter headspace for accuracy. I might give him a few GOOD tips on the only way to get benchrest scores from his old milsurps





You got me thinking, Ned... might take the No6 yet.... bit lighter for the standing deliberate matches...nearly a hundred HXP's through it before lunch and then 50 through the Lowmount... glad I'm not a fairy winged nancy pants who is afraid of a shorter, lighter rifle and full power loads. :-)

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Nah, never a prob with Dave, Matt and the guys... It was the SSAA blokes that I had the problem with.

Looking at shooting the Int. Nat. Match course with my old faithfull No1 then two strings of the Tactical Match, one at 600 and then again at 700 with my lowmount. Will give them your regards, mate!

Back to the op here... I see someone has already confused the poor bugger with talk of tighter headspace for accuracy. I might give him a few GOOD tips on the only way to get benchrest scores from his old milsurps

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oooohhhhh I'd like too see that!!!!
Have you done a walk through talk through from start to finish on the accurization on the No1 mK3 yet?
maybe it could be posted in the sticky bit of this.
Your ideas and methods DO work and have a bit of the old about them.
Cheers
Ned

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Originally Posted by trooper554877

oooohhhhh I'd like too see that!!!!
Have you done a walk through talk through from start to finish on the accurization on the No1 mK3 yet?
maybe it could be posted in the sticky bit of this.
Your ideas and methods DO work and have a bit of the old about them.
Cheers
Ned

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I was going to tell him to trade them in on a Barnard or some other benchie rifle. Only guarentee to get accuracy he's looking for.... if a thou headspace is going to improve it!
Even using the methods described in Jim Sweets books, the humble No1 can be hit and miss (pardon the pun). But, I prefer the old methods, rather than using bog and credit card shims.

I couldn't help it... He was heading off to buy a SAAMI spec Field Gauge...( As far as I recall, the Forster fiield gauge is .070") I had to tell him to get a .074" somewhere.

Brad, it's a bit late to tell you I will be down about midday to ensure my club members don't try to zero at 100 while you lot are plinking at 700.
If you haven't posted the reamer yet you have missed todays collection.
Ned needs to get educated and come across out of the dark side, but then again, with the amount of cheek out of him, it's better he doesn't contaminate the young un's over here.
I've decided that headspace is just a term for the vacuum between the ears.

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I've decided that headspace is just a term for the vacuum between the ears.

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You got that right, mate!

If I get up in time (sleep being a bit hard to come by lately) I'll be there for the morning session. If I miss you, I'll stick it in the post Monday.
Think I might use the No6 for the main match... The first time I fired it was there at your range... fronted up to find out they were shooting the course in reverse, started at the 600 mound. Got onto target and scored with 17 from 20. but the grin factor alone was worth half a dozen centers, easy!

He's posted the same damn question on gunboards now, the answer you gave just drifted off into space.
Who needs to explore the galaxy when the inner space is still virgin territory.

Can't someone just say that the whole question has been answered definitively, authoritatively, verse and chapter on the Milsurps forum and he should come over, even if it's just to take a look...................

We have a saying while teaching/instructing soldiers. A play on the saying '.....where there's a will, there's a way' Only we say, where there's a will, there's a difficult way! Sometimes, people just don't get it!

But how many times do we see it? A poster will ask the same question on different forums and only pay attention to the answer he was wanting to hear. Worse still, some will ask the same question, worded differently, on the same forum and ignore everything until he gets the reply he was looking for.
I just asked for a few more on gunboards to confirm the gauge this bloke is buying is wrong... maybe his eyes and ears ARE painted on...

I send as many here as will listen... but I'm afraid something keeps a lot them from walking upright....

All very amusing, NOT! I deal with this almost weekly. They are all more informed than I thanks to all the great, (and FREE), information on the internet so I rarely argue anymore. I DO refuse to sell them bolt heads sometimes if they annoy me too much!! It's back to the saying coined many years ago: "The excessive headspace is between the ears of some American collectors". LOL!!

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Brad, it's a bit late to tell you I will be down about midday to ensure my club members don't try to zero at 100 while you lot are plinking at 700.
If you haven't posted the reamer yet you have missed todays collection.
Ned needs to get educated and come across out of the dark side, but then again, with the amount of cheek out of him, it's better he doesn't contaminate the young un's over here.
I've decided that headspace is just a term for the vacuum between the ears.

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whats that? EDU MA CATED? never heard of it!!
See what great ideas I started suggesting Son uses the beat up old No6!! Maybe some pics of the dentist shooting would be nice.
i have been known to venture to the place where the sun doesn't set over the ocean, yeah you get it first but at least we can sit on the sand with a coldie and enjoy it, zero dark hundred hours is not good for a beer!!!
Anyway have some nice tea and SCONES@ SCONE,
cheers
NED from the West!!

Attachment 28985Attachment 28984Attachment 28983SON at 300 and 600 and a shot of Aberdeen Rifle Range from 600yds.


Well Ned you started something, the boy took up your challenge to use the No.6, maybe picked a bad day though, Aberdeen Range at it's best can be pretty tricky for us locals, but with a sou'easterly belting around the mountain, it's a constant fishtail.
But I did get a couple of happy pic's of the boy in action.(leaves a lot to be desired)

Enjoy...and don't **** stir.

They say a bad day at the range is better than a good day at work... well I had a bad day at the range and it was GREAT
Nearly a hundred rounds (HXP MkVII) through the little carbine from 200 to 600yds, quite a few of which went through paper on their way into the backstop. Followed that by a couple of matches at 600 and 700 with the HT for a total of another fifty rounds. I messed up the 600 but scored well at 700 with half of shots scoring 8 or better I put all 20 in the scoring zone. Interesting course of fire... a couple of sighters, followed by ten shots in three minutes then into a snap, five exposures of 5 seconds each for two rounds per exposure- these ten make a total of 20 rounds to score. Total, 153/200. grin factor AAA

Thanks to the High Power guys who always turn on a very friendly and competitive shoot, and to muffet.2008 for the effort he puts in to keep the Aberdeen range and it's 109 years of history going.

(BTW, when muffet.2008 said above "leaves a lot to be desired" he wasn't talking about the picture quality.... )