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Anybody aware of a military or civilian program to convert No4T's to 7.62 in original barrel profile? Barrel appears to be Sterling. How would this impact the value of the No4T since it no longer has it's original barrel and no longer 303? What would be a fair price to pay for this here in North America?
I don't know where they were done, but they are around,, There is more than one out there.
The only military conversions I know of were done at RSAF Enfield as the L8T. Long Branch also did conversions for DCRA service rifle shooters but I'm not aware of any 7.62 No.4T conversions as done there. That doesn't mean they don't exist though as we all know! The Enfield trials and tribulations are included in "Armourer's Perspective". There were many built up in the commercial trade using a variety of barrels. I've seen Sterling, CAL, and Belgian produced barrels installed on different rifles over the years. None of which were in No.4T configuration.
I've been watching this for a couple days:
No4 MK2 .308 Target Rifle
Wife would kill me as I've purchased two rifles in the last month.
I would buy a #4T in 308.I like unusual enfields.
Not sure what to pay.Is the scope included?
The one on the loose might be one of the ones I had at one time. I still have one in 7.62 and had one in .22 Rem. These were part of an accumulation I got in a huge LongBranch rifle crate in the late 60's. This supposedly came from LongBranch. One 7.62 and one 222 Rem was sold. I know the .222 Rem. is long gone from Canada but the 7.62 is probably still here. Anyone interested in an original LongBranch rifle crate for 10 rifles PM me. Canada only ...please
I have one in .308 with a PH sight. I'll have to dig it out and take picture. gary, I found out today I'm elderly. Lived beyond life expectancy of 67.
I took pictures.. Regulated by Fulton.Quote:
Originally Posted by arado
RGG7, there were a few proposed programmes. The first to convert No4 rifles should the late 50's /early 60's conversion to the L1A1 falter, then one to convert 60,000 surplus MoS rifles for the Indian government in 1965 and a later one to convert the successful No4T to 7.62mm. Both L8 programmes have been written up at some length here so I won't repeat it all.
Commercially, Sterling did market kits to do the same job but their kits weren't part of the UK MoD/Government programme.
There were very probably quite a few commercial and private ventures too. Indeed, yours truly and my pal did a superb conversion on his totally shot-out No5 rifle using a Myford lathe and a chrome lined 7.62mm L4 Bren barrel some 15 or so years ago and it's still going strong. So much for those who tell you that the No5 body wouldn't take the extra loading
20+ years ago the National Army Museum in London had an "L8(T)" complete in the chest.
I've heard tell of another in the UK that slipped the leash.;)
Both LB 7.62 barrels.
I had a DCRA No. 4 Savage in 308. Sold it in Ohio. About 6 months later, it showed at a gunshow in Michigan complete with a Pecar scope. Guy selling it claimed it was a rare NATO sniper rifle. Everything on it was beautifully done, from the scope pads to the mount. You should have seen the guy's face when I exclaimed "this used to be my rifle, but it did not have a scope on it when I had it."
I tell the story in case this might be the rifle you saw.
I've got two L8T rifles inbound, one from Australia and one from England. It'll be interesting to compare them when they finally arrive. I know ONE of them is legit. We'll see about the other.
I sure would like to see what you get. I was going to have you barrel me up one two years ago but I'm never home with enough time to send it. :(
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...7862c880-1.jpg
They're imports for clients who purchased them overseas. WAAAAAY out of my league!!
Thats a fascinating treatment on top of the charger bridge. Very carefully machined on , with lots of shapes on the underside. I assume its part of a scope mount but there's no sign of anything at the front of the receiver. Any ideas?Quote:
Originally Posted by tellicomoto
Its actually a 7.62mm charger guide; you come across them on some rifles. I'm not sure if they are the original type of Sterling charger bridge conversion before they switched to the clip insert, or whether these were made by Enfield as part of the L8 parts run along with the magazines.Quote:
Originally Posted by RJW NZ
According to the coversion guides for the two companies, thats the Sterling Charger guide, Enfield conversion kits used the insert type!
+1 for Sterling charger guide adapter.
Scored one off e-bay for 29 pence a couple of years ago; was very surprised to be the only bidder!
It's the Sterling bridge. I still have an complete unopened Sterling conversion package (well, I did open it to check the contents, but still wrapped as it came)
I had several kits at one time, that were obtained for me by old Major B.B. Keen of Sterling fame, after the Sterling works closed. THAT is going back a few years!!!