Is there any trick upon how to get the bolt out that keeps the magazine cut-off in place?
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Is there any trick upon how to get the bolt out that keeps the magazine cut-off in place?
I think you mean that tiny little screw that keeps the cutt-off spindle in place?
It shouldn't be very hard to remove, maybe you have a lot of crud in the threads.
Try a little Kroil or your favorite penetrating oil.
See figure 22 of the following web site.
http://207.36.233.89/1903/rifledisassemble/index.asp
D. :cheers:
I've removed that screw but the cutt-off is being kept in place by the spindle. How can I remove the spindle from the rifle?
The spindle is just a shaft.
See figures 23 and 24 of the web site I sent.
All you have to do is to insert a small flat head screw driver into the lip at the rear of the spindle shaft and lever it out.
Is it rusty, does the cut-off move at all?
D. :cheers:
No, it's from a M1922 M2. The plunger in the Cut-Off is missing and I'd like to replace it but I've never removed that one before. Will give it a try tomorrow, thanks for the help :)
remove the set screw thats on the end of the cuttoff, then with your thumb apply pressue, and then pul the cut off spindle. if you use the edge of a screwdriver, you can catch the groove in the spindle. it will come right out.
Took out the rifle, there is my problem: the spindle does not stick out what is necessary to be removed from the rifle:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...92735214-1.jpg
Any ideas?
Like Chuck says, remove the cut off spindle screw and spring and plunger. Use your smallest flat tip screwdriver to reach in and back out the spindle by levering backward in the groove. This will give you enough to grab at the back end.
if you come from the inside of the bolt rail, you can push the spindle out enough to grab it by the grove,. sits up against the ejector.
This "cut off" has no notches on the inner side. Was thinking about removing it with vacuum, but not sure that would work. It's sitting rather in the receiver than sticking out.
Like Chuck says.
Take the rifle out of the stock.
Remove the ejector.
You will be able to see the end of the shaft from the inside of the bolt rail where the ejector was.
Push out the shaft enough to be able to grab it and extract it.
Another alternative would be to clean the end of the shaft to remove any oil and grease and then glue a metal pin, screw, nail, whatever to it using "crazy glue".
Cyanoacrylate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Then pull it out using the glued on item as a extension.
D. :cheers:
Guys, it's a M1922 M2 - there is no ejector that I can remove :( . Will bring it to the gunsmith and give him a try on the glue-solution as it didn't work out when I've just tried it.
just look inside the bolt rail just under the receiver bridge..
ill bet the spindle is in backwards, if you tighten the screw in the cutoff, it should push the spindle out, as the screw sets in the small groove...maybe remove the screw, and push the spindle out with a pick.
That's what I was telling him too...I wish it was closer, I'd have it out for him now!
me as well, in about 15 seconds.
I already tried to push it out with a small screwdriver through the hole .. doesn't seem to work aswell, lol. I tried it on some other M1903's, there was no problem at all to remove the cut-off spindle. I have no idea why this one just doesn't want to move :( . BAR, thanks for the offer. Do you already have any plans for summer holiday? ;)
BTW, Chuck I've sent you an inquiry on a cutaway M1903 this week, didn't receive any answer. Am I'm going to get a reply?
I've a female friend that would love to find out we were going to Europe for the summer's vacation. She'd be a bit surprised to find out why once we got there though...I'm sure a trip to the Austrian Alps would help her feelings!
Not sure this is going to help, but how about trying this to see if the shaft is seized in the bolt rail.
1) Put the screw back into the cut-off and tighten it a much as you can so it grabs the shaft.
Move the cut-off up and down.
2)Does the shaft rotate?
3)If you get the shaft to rotate then the application of penetrating oil and pushing thru the hole might just do the trick.
Good luck.
D. :cheers:
didnt know that was you, i was going to answer over the weekend, taken care of house loan BS, and keepin up with work.... dont think i have anything that i can send over seas without a importer..barrels, actions ect,, i have a couple demilled Actions, not sure i want to part with them.
lots of plugged barrels, but i belive even plugged barrels have to sent through an importer..
i have a guy here that does that, just not sure its worth the import duties,
Georg,Quote:
Originally Posted by Dad
Careful. Cranking down the ejector stop screw on the ejector stop spindle may just burr the shaft and make matters worse. (M2's don't have magazine cutoffs they have ejector stop assembly's :D)
I think the basic idea has merit but i would just tighten the screw lightly. Flood the assembly with penetrant through the stop screw hole and then see if it can be loosened up.
The annular groove on the spindle is not on center so if the spindle has been swapped end for end the groove won't be under the stop screw hole it will most likely be out of reach.
One possibility, which i guess would be the last resort, would be to remove the action from the stock and bore a small diamter hole through the bottom of the receiver into the tunnel for the spindle. This may give you a purchase on the end of the shaft and allow it to be levered out. the hole would be invisible once the rifle is reassembled. If all else fails let me know. I will take my m2 apart and give you dimensions for where the hole should go. Aagina i wouldn't try this unless all else fails.:beerchug:
Regards,
Jim
BAR, wie can send her to the Alps while we work on the rifle ;). And yes, the spindle rotates when moving the ejector stop assembly :D.
Chuck, I have someone in the US who would to the exporting for me, I just wanted to know if you'd be able to make a cool display rifle showing how the M1903 works. Let the rest be my problem.
JGaynor, I will have the gunsmith fixing it (as soon as he returns from his skiing trip ;) ). The last solution would be to drill a hole into the spindle and simply replace it (rather than drilling the receiver).
i could set you up with a complete drill rifle 1903 or A3..i just dont have good enough tools to make a good cut away of the 1903. neet idea though.
to cut through the wood and the heat treated steel at the same time would be tough..
i know of some complete drill rifles available right now for less then 200.00 US,.
let me know if i can help you get one..i might order a couple next week, need to call and talk to them make sure they havent cut the botton of the receiver out to make the ATF happy.
Extreme example for a cutaway, but see what OEWG themselves did with the M1888 back then. The butt of the stock broke away as is the bolt missing, but just to show how much effort they spent on cutaways.
i think its pretty awesome, have seen some training cut aways in the past, great idea, i think its a little stretch of my abbilities...