Did they come with this finish?
1941 Johnson Semi-Automatic rifle : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
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Did they come with this finish?
1941 Johnson Semi-Automatic rifle : Semi Auto Rifles at GunBroker.com
No sir, they weren't polished and blued. They were finished more like the bayonet present. Parkerizing was the normal. That one even shows the lines from polishing and rebluing. It could be resurrected though, with a bead blast and parkerize. Provided you get the shade right.
Thanks Jim
Some magazine covers and small parts were blued sometimes, but the rest ought to be phosphated.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...tuff0151-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...uff01511-1.jpg
Sorry for the lack of detailed photos. For some reason this rifle is camera shy.
some trivia...did you know the barrel for a 1941 Johnson, is just a standard 1917 Enfield barrel?? look at the breach, youll see the notch for an extractor..
the mag box was left blued originally, im guessing they found it works better when blued vs beadblast and parkerized.
Don't be too quick to refinish a very expensive rifle based on people looking at less than ideal photos. I've seen a lot of Johnson rifles and I can't say from the pics that it is not original finish. Get someone to look at it with their eyes before you change anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
I'll tell you for a fact Walt that it's not original. Not even close. If you want to know how, let's not clog this thread, PM me and I'll tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by waltmilan
Umm, yes! Don't refinsh! Except as a last resort. I did not mean to imply that GUTS should DO anything, just that the rifle wasn't out the factory door (the first time at least) as it now exists. But it might be "correct" as a post war civilian sales "Winfield" or similar. It could be just part of it's history. But it seems shinier than usual for a Winfield. Stock is suspect. AND it didn't sell...So it's NOT as expensive as somebody thinks!Quote:
Originally Posted by waltmilan
Oh, go ahead and clog! It's not like we get to go on about the M16's great granddaddy all that often.Quote:
Originally Posted by browningautorifle
In addition to being re-blued it looks like the stock has been refinished with some type of polyurethane.
The stock may have been tru-oiled. With enough coats, it looks like that.
It just basically looks too nice to be original, to me anyway.
Absolutely agreed...
The tricky part about that particular Johnson is that it looks like some of it has been re-blued but some of it looks OK. The Johnson's I've seen that were supposedly original finish and sold for a LOT of money were what I would call blued looking but not as glossy and Mirror-like as some parts on that one. Definitely NOT Parkerized. The first close-up pic definitely looks re-blued. Some of the upper part of the receiver area looks right. The barrel looks re-blued. The stock doesn't look right. I think someone was trying very hard to make this one look "right".
Looks like it just shipped out the bubba's factory door. Nice for a brand new old rifle.