Help-Advise on shooting a SC 6-43 barrel that has been modified

I just acquired a SC 6-43 on flie-bay, and I thougt the picture here showed a SC with a barrel shim, so I bought it anyway. (SC barrels are hard to come by!)

Turns out that's no shim, the shoulder has been cut back leaving a sliver of the shoulder in place. The barrel mounts fine and indexes snug with good head space.

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My questions are:
1. Is this barrel safe to shoot?
2. If its not safe to shoot, can it be saved, by a gunsmith with the proper tools?

Thanks is advance for any advise!

It looks to me as if someone made a rerlief cut to remove the barrel from a receiver. I do not believe that the barrel will stand up for much shooting as it is, even though it indexes correctly and fits snug against the remaing barrel material. The only hope is to move the shoulder forward and recut the threads. It will be necessary to cut a new feed cone and extractor cut and rechamber. The barrel will then be short. As a sporter it MAY be OK but if you are looking to restore an original SC, it will always be incorrect and will look funny. I have had this done with 03A3 barrels for installing on Gew 98's and it seems to work out OK, but those were for shooters not for restoration. I would not recommend rechambering for a Magnum caliber but a standard caliber it may work out. This is not a recommendatioin - just relating my own personel experience.
Someone with more knoweledge, please feel free to opine.
FWIW

barrel is junk...

This is a flea-bay deal? I would send it back tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by chuckindenver

barrel is junk...

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I'll second Chucks statement. (as far as using "as is" on a rifle.)

might be great for a jack handle, or holding a flag, tomato stake, but since a lazy gunsmith cut the shoulder, rather then man up and crank it out...it destroyed that barrel.
another reason...i dont cut them...wrench marks can be fixed...that cant.

To quick to give good feedback, much to easy going...:banghead:

It really looks nice inside and out, except for the shoulder.

Another lesson on auction pictures :thdown: etc.

i have a SC barrel that id sell..bore is a little frosty, but safe to shoot.

I will e-mail you Chuck!
Thanks
Tom

Tom, I have utilized 2 barrels that were cut like yours. Breeching washers were made to get the proper crush and clocking. I have seen this done on many rifles. However, this is not an easy job and when you are done the collector value is significantly reduced. The barrels I used worked out great for shooters. There are precedents to support the use of the washers. Breeching washers and shims have been used on many production rifles as well as for repair. Examples are the Enfield No. 4's and the L1A1. The Remington 700 and Savage 110 use a recoil shoulder that is essentially a breeching washer. Check out this article: http://photos.imageevent.com/badgerd...ching%20Up.pdf

breaching washers or shimstock should never be used on a squared threaded barrel... the rifles you listed, have a V thread, and the V has most of the crush...on a square thread barrel. the shoulder takes most of the crush,
Krag, 1903, P14, 1917, Garand, 1928 SMG, Winchester M54, Jap Arisaka, all have sqaure thead.
i dont recomend using shims or washers on any barrel to make it fit. there is a fix for that barrel, its a lot of work, but can be done..

I just hate this barrel being a wall hanger????

(I know it would never be right, but would it be cost effective?????)

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On another note: Chuck I got the aforementioned SC barrel, very very NICE...cleaned right up!!!!!

If there are any more where that came from, let me know, still have some budget left this month...:lol:
Tom

You did get very good advise. Return that barrel. Let the seller fix it, then he can re-list it. Buy the time you have gunsmith work on it you will have $400.00 into worthless barrel. Think about it.

turn the shoulder back, turn the breach face, re cut the extactor notch and finish ream the chamber.. 6 hours at 45.00 and hour.....with no set up fee.
also i remember what those threadsa re called....apex threads.. lol