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Hi all, new to the world of Military rifles(I've just got modern for now) I'm looking for some help and any info on an Enfield rifle, I don't know the model(is that correct terminology for these?) I know it's chambered .303 Brit but that's about all, what price range do these normally go for? I guess you can say I'm looking for the basic info and value of one of these.
Thanks,
Ken
The two basic rifles in question would be (in very general terms) the Number 1 Mk.III of WW1 and the Number 4 Mk.I of WW2.
The No.1 is the type with wood all the way to the muzzle cap and no barrel protruding. The No.4 has a receiver backsight and a muzzle tip protruding past the foresight.
Both rifle's values can range between $100 and $5,000 dollars, give or take. You can buy reasonably nice examples of either for $150-$300, depending on their condition and where you are located.
Hope this helps...
The value of an Enfield depends on many things. First is it a rare model, then condition. Next would be if it has matching numbers. Then is it a SMLE or a MK 4. Is it British, Canadian, Australian or Indian. That being said the price can anywhere from just over $100 on up. The best thing is to visit as many sites as you can find that has Enfield's for sale. I suggest you Google "Enfield's for sale" and see what is posted before you buy.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_blue79
Thanks for the help, IIRC it has the Barrel protruding past the stock, it looks like the stock is kind of a walnut color, it's $190. I didn't pay it any attention when the guy said it was .303 Brit(didn't know much about it) but now I'm hooked.... I've been doing a lot of Research, how do I tell what country this specific model is made in? Certain marks or anything?
Savage(square S) =US
Longbranch =Canadian
Fazackerley(F)=British
Maltby M = British
BSA M47
BSA Shirley M47C= British
I hope I haven't missed any.
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Okay, I found a site in the Enfield links(in the Enfield forum) and it had a way of decifiring the marks but I didn't know what marks it was talking of, thanks for all the help everyone! I'll let you know how it turns out when I go back to the shop!
Pictures man, pictures... !
Savage(square S) =US
Yeah, they forgot about the US Property Lend lease rifles and the #5 Jungle carbine too. I use to have both, but I traded them a while back. My No4 Mk1 Savage US Property Magazine Lee Enfield was a beauty to see and shoot. It had the older two groove barrel and shot the Flat base bullets very well when I could find them, and it had standard GI front sight, with rear Peep sight. My #5 Jungle carbine was also a beauty to see, but hurt like the dickens when I shot it, compared to the heavier No4 Mk1. The Little light weight Jungle carbine had the newer 5 groove barrel and shot the Boat Tail bullets just fine. It was a real shooter at a hundred yards, and it had the rear ladder sight on it, which made shooting a lot more fun at the range. I got rid of them back when they started charging me $30.00 a box for .303 British Ammo. I know, should have reloaded, but water under the dam now. The guy thats shooting them now Loves them just as I did. Which in itself, makes me very happy to know they have an owner now that will take good care of them and enjoy them. Anyway, just thought I would mention those two that I had.
Well I thank you all for the help! I put the Enfield in layaway today(so I could pay it off eventually, had more personal things I needed the money for) the Enfield is a No 1 Mk4 from the Long Branch Factory(Canada), it has the rear peep sight on it also, has 1943 stamped in it underneath the Long Branch. The bore looked nice and shiny, the barrel is kinda rusty but I'm not really looking for a mint shape gun, just one I can shoot and say that I own a piece of historyhttps://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...lie_9gif-1.jpg. I'm gonna have to do some stock work on it(it's kinda loose up front), and it hasn't been cut down.
Sorry, have it backwards, it's a No 4 Mk 1.
BB79, If you mean tha barrel moves then this is how it should be, $190 sounds a good deal for an LB.Quote:
Originally Posted by big_blue79
No the stock wiggle's, the barrel is fine it doesn't move, the gun is still in layaway so I thought I'd ask(sorry for the newb question, been trying to research as much as I can) did these come without the stock like a SMLE, the barrel is exposed on the gun and looks different from an SMLE.
Hi, If you were up here in Canada the Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 Longbranch would sell for about $800-$1000, if it was in its original condition. Cut down its a $50-$100 gun.
I think what he meant to say is the stock moves, not the barrel. This is normal. It will probably move about an 8th inch. The barrel bands should have the two stock pieces tight together. The barrel is more or less free floating inside the stock pieces for accuracy purposes.
Here's a photo of my No4 MKI:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...4MKI001a-1.jpg
I owe $90 on the gun now, I'll have it out at the end of the month and then I'll take picture's ASAP.
It's probably a No 4 MK1*. Check with another good No4 rifle. The barrel is supposed to float slightly. 10mm or so. New woodwork is easy to find. DO NOT SWAP MAGAZINES WITH AN SMLE/No1 rifle. They jam in.
Enjoy owning it, Lester
Pics:
My favorite feature of this Enfield is the grain of the wood towards the buttstock, it kinda makes tiger stripes:
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_0209-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_0208-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_0207-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_0206-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_0205-1.jpg
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...100_0202-1.jpg
It's missing the ladder sight I guess is what it's called, so I will be trying to procure one somewhere.
It's definately been sporterized, but that isn't a problem with me, this gun will be used for what it was intended, I will be shooting Feral Hogs in the summer, maybe some Coyote's, and Deer in the Fall.
Actually the rear sight is not one of the things this No.4 is missing. It was most likely originally built with the 2 position "L" sight that's still resident on this piece...Quote:
Originally Posted by big_blue79
Just to add, Enfield can be confusing also with a Enfield P14
Lee Enfield : No1 and No4 ( well mostly)
Enfield : P14 ( completely another thing, have a Mauser action among other things)
just for help :)