M1d dcm garand

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M1D Garand cal. 30-06 semi-automatic eight shot top loading clip fed Springfield Armory rifle. This rifle also came from DCM at a cost of $650.00. It was the designated “Sniper rifle” that was issued During WWII and the Korean War. It has the scope, cheek piece and, M2 flash suppressor that Was issued with it. It is topped with a Libby-Owens-Ford manufactured M82 2.5 power scope. The Rifle appears to be unfired or arsenal refinished. The scope, cheekpad and M2 flash hider were new in Wrappers. I assembled it, zeroed it and fired about 10 rounds and that’s all its been used. I also have the USGI M5A1bayonet M10 scabbard and winter trigger conversion.

I think M82's were all made by Lyman or Wollensak. I have heard of some scopes in GI packaging that had he manufacturers ID wrong. LOF, Leupold and a small manufacturer in NY did make M84's.
Regards,
Jim

And the M1D certainly never saw WWII, wasn't built until 1951. We don't think the M1C made that war, either. In all the millions of combat photos, nobody has ever reported an M1C until Korea.

Just a curious observation, but it looks like that stock was tiger looking. The pic isn't high res enough to really look here and tell, but many stocks were naturally tiger looking depending on the wood type & how they cut the blanks with the grain. "Really awesome looking". I remember an older NRA Presentation Rifle awarded to a ditinguished vet and it was very beautifully striped, and very shiney finish on the wood. Then a while back some folks around here, learned the "art of staining" those stripes in great detail, but you don't often hear of it anymore. I seen a Vietnam vet stripe all of his rifles with stain, but I cant remember if he used oil based stain, or the ones with alchohol in them that dried quicker. But when he got through with his rifles, they were a real site to see. But like I said, you don't hear much about it anymore. I remember seeing what looked like an unfinished one he was starting on, and I thought the grain looked striped before he even started on it. All he did was use different stain to highlight those areas, so it would closely resemble the tiger stripe uniform they used back then. When I saw your pic, the lightened edge around the darker stripes, it reminded me of the ones that guy use to make. He passed away many years back, cancer. I don't know if anyone else does that stuff anymore, or if they would ever really want to. "Beautiful Rifle" You have there, by the way, Thank You for sharing your pic.

I must agree with Bob also, I have read about and seen pics of WWII campains with 1903A4 looking rifles, that is no iron sights, but scoped. Never once any mention at all about M1C or M1D rifles at all. I am not even sure if my calling what I saw in those photo's, was actually officially an 03A4 or not, I just alway's called the ones with no iron sights and a scope an 03A4.

Food for thought too, I forgot to add, Can anyone produce an M1D barrel dated 1944. Isn't that the barrel with the square block at the chamber end, for mounting the scope? Now if it is, and I don't have one so I cant look, but that would be proof positive wouldn't it. Like they said, never heard of one yet, but I guess one dated that way would go a long way, except I think the old winchesters maybe some earlier ones, werent dated. That may also help. I admit I could be wrong about that, but just wanted to see if anyone could elaborate on it more.

In the old days they used to use a Bernz-O-Matic torch to char stripes on, then sand and oil over it. Some were pretty good.

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Originally Posted by bob seijas

In the old days they used to use a Bernz-O-Matic torch to char stripes on, then sand and oil over it. Some were pretty good.

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AWESOME, I thought I was the only one that knew people did this for a minute there, Glad to see someone else also recalls it being done. I hadn't seen that approach, so thats also good to know. Thanks for leeting us know that.

"Food for thought too, I forgot to add, Can anyone produce an M1D barrel dated 1944. Isn't that the barrel with the square block at the chamber end, for mounting the scope? Now if it is, and I don't have one so I cant look, but that would be proof positive wouldn't it. Like they said, never heard of one yet, but I guess one dated that way would go a long way, except I think the old winchesters maybe some earlier ones, werent dated. That may also help. I admit I could be wrong about that, but just wanted to see if anyone could elaborate on it more"

Title: RIFLE, MILITARY - U.S. RIFLE M1D .30 SN# 3376966
Maker/Manufacturer: GARAND, JOHN C.
Date of Manufacture: 12/01/1944
Eminent Figure:
Catalog Number: SPAR 3439
Measurements: OL: 86.9CM 34 1/4" BL: 60.9CM 24"



Object Description:

U.S. RIFLE M1D .30 SN# 3376966
Manufactured by Springfield Armory, Springfield, Ma. - Sniper version of M1 semi-auto rifle adopted in September 1944. Barrel and receiver only with experimental four prong flash suppressor.

Markings:
Receiver: U.S. RIFLE/CAL..30 M1/SPRINGFIELD/ARMORY/3376966.
Barrel: 5-51.
Receiver: D2829135.
Bayonet lug: 4/Z.

Weapon transferred to the Museum on 14 July 1966. At that time weapon was appraised at $207.

Notes: "According to a 14 June 1951 Springfield Armory office memorandum the subject being Test of Sample M1D rifle, paragraph one states: 'The subject M1D rifle is the first M1 rifle selected by Field Service Maintenance from Field Service Stores and rebuilt to certain standards or requirements as outlined in the above memo dated 26 April 1951, subject 'Standards for M1 Rifle for conversion to M1D Sniper, forwarded to Test Section, Field Service and Inspection.' The serial number of the first M1D is 3,376,966. Several prototype M1D's were built at SA in 1944 and are in storage at SANHS Museum. The first actual conversion to a M1D is serial number 3,376,966....
The last M1D assembled at Springfield Armory was s/n 485,083 in May of 1967." - The Grand Stand Report, Fall, 2004.

"This model can be found by any manufacturer and in any serial number range. This mounting system was designed by John Garand, and consists of a mounting block on the rear of the barrel. The rear hand guard is shortened and the mount attaches with a large single screw system. The modification could be made on the field repair level. It is not known how many rifles were modified, but it is very likely that they numbers into the tens of thousands." - Schwing

"M1D Sniper Rifle (modified from existing M1 service rifle in the early 1950's.)
Serial number: WWII ranges. Generally from the 1,000,000 to 3,000,000 ranges.
Barrel markings: Special M1D barrel marked 'SA' and dated 1951-1953.
Telescope mounts: Integral telescope base in the M1D barrel and screw type scope mount.
Proper telescope: Generally seen with the M84 scope with sliding sunshade and rubber eyepiece. Technically speaking, the M81 and M82 telescope would also be correct for this model.
Stock cartouche: Original examples noted with WWII SA cartouche or the later 'Dept. of Defense' cartouche.
Accessories: M2 flash hider or the later T-37 prong-type flash suppressor. Leather T4 cheekpad (many found dated in the early 1950s.)" - Canfield, Man At Arms. January/February 1956.

References:Springfield Armory Museum - Collection Record,

Gilbert, Adrian. SNIPER. St. Martin's Paperbacks. N.Y., N.Y. 1994.
Schwing, Ned. STANDARD CATALOG OF MILITARY FIREARMS. Krause Publications. Iola, Wi. 2001.

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Notes: "According to a 14 June 1951 Springfield Armory office memorandum the subject being Test of Sample M1D rifle, paragraph one states: 'The subject M1D rifle is the first M1 rifle selected by Field Service Maintenance from Field Service Stores and rebuilt to certain standards or requirements as outlined in the above memo dated 26 April 1951, subject 'Standards for M1 Rifle for conversion to M1D Sniper, forwarded to Test Section, Field Service and Inspection.' The serial number of the first M1D is 3,376,966.

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WOW, Now that's Way more Awesome of a response than I was hoping for. AWESOME man, goes beyond careful what you ask for, Thats just awesome, and thank you for that that reply. Now thats good reading, and is sure to get others interested. I know I am, now I got something to go on. A serial number range and everything, just awesome, THANKS. "anybody else??"

I am totally convinced that the fix was in for G&H's M1C. SA did a study of the two designs being considered and the results were plain that the D was better. Ordnance ignored the report, assuming SA was biased -- they were, but it didn't alter the fact that the C was a bit of a clunker. As early as May 1944 an Ordnance guy visited SA and told JCG he might as well quit working on his design, the contract was going to G&H. Making the C was a nightmare and kinda nuts -- they sent receivers to NYC so G&H could drill them because SA couldn't drill five holes? A turnaround time of three months? Each rifle custom fit and interchangeable only by accident? Accuracy not as good as a standard rifle? A 30% failure rate in accuracy testing? History proved SA was right, the C lasted about five years in the hands of troops, then was replaced by the D which lasted over 20 years.

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Originally Posted by bob seijas

I am totally convinced that the fix was in for G&H's M1C. SA did a study of the two designs being considered and the results were plain that the D was better. Ordnance ignored the report, assuming SA was biased -- they were, but it didn't alter the fact that the C was a bit of a clunker. As early as May 1944 an Ordnance guy visited SA and told JCG he might as well quit working on his design, the contract was going to G&H. Making the C was a nightmare and kinda nuts -- they sent receivers to NYC so G&H could drill them because SA couldn't drill five holes? A turnaround time of three months? Each rifle custom fit and interchangeable only by accident? Accuracy not as good as a standard rifle? A 30% failure rate in accuracy testing? History proved SA was right, the C lasted about five years in the hands of troops, then was replaced by the D which lasted over 20 years.

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Kind of a similar story with the USMC 1903A1 sniper. The corps was advised in 1940 don't use a target scope (as they did in WW1). They did anyway adopting the 8x Unertl. Within a year the Commandant was telling his people to get A4's from the army. Yeah, the scopes soldiered on all the way to Vietnam but only because the Corps never throws anything away.:wave:

Regards,
Jim