Still searching for those .22LR mags for a Lee Enfield No 7 MKI training rifle. I think I have the name of the mag right. Any leads?
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Still searching for those .22LR mags for a Lee Enfield No 7 MKI training rifle. I think I have the name of the mag right. Any leads?
Dave, what about making the kits with a bog standard, cheap, readily available, off the shelf 5 or 10 round magazine fitted into a standard magazine case. This would be simplicity itself to make a small jig to accurately align the internal .22" magazine and retain it with an epoxy material. At least the buyers will have a magazine to get them started PLUS you'll be able to sell extra magazines to existing owners of No7 rifles - even if they've got an original, an extra useable magazine will be useful.
I think that this is the route being taken by the maker of the L1A1 rifle sub calibre kits who is in a similar boat. The big outer and smaller inner magazines are available but not the onterface adaptor. So just resin the inner into the outer. Similarly with your No7 project. The outer magazines are ten a penny, so are suitable inner magazines - so bond them together! That's just my idea
It's a bit like having a basic L42. Some of the fun is collecting the CES afterwards If the buyer has the shell and guts of the correct magazine, then the fun will be looking for the inner mag..........no?
I sold a BSA sportsmans mag on ebay recently, I thought someone would want to convert it to No.7 spec but the winner just wanted it for his BSA
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Peter that is probably what we will do as I soon hope to have a complete rifle minus the mag of course. we have a outer shell on our loaner rifle(the one that started the quest to make a bolt head) and thank you BDL that we didn't have to do that.
The proto type has been tweaked a little mostly a higher quality material though the original material would have been adequate I'm told. Initially 10 parts kits will be made, 8 for bolts and 2 for parts only and all spoken for at this time. The nice part is they are all going to members on this site. (-:)
Just to mention I was offered trade for one of the bolts so when we organize a 2nd and most likely final run it isn't out of the question. I'm really in it for the fun of the hobby and as I've said before this endeavor has been fun.
Out of the past. Wow. Everyone still out there?
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DaveN,
PM incoming!! Welcome back!!
Brian B
My late machinist did a small production run of the .22 magazine inserts for me about twenty years ago, as I had thirty No7 'parts kits' made, including extractors, auxiliary supporting arm, ejector & mag inserts. Terry Abrams supplied me with original bolt heads. I retained about ten finished kits & the other twenty went Stateside to someone well known on this forum! I'm not sure but I may still have the magazine tooling for stamping out the sheet steel into the correct shape for the sides of the .22 mag. I'll have a look in the garage as if I have them they may be of use to someone. The assembled mags functioned flawlessly.
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Originally Posted by Roger Payne
There is a 'Midlands' Gun auction house that has a number of BSA Sportsman rifles at every auction.
In the past I have purchased the complete rifle removed the magazine and asked the auctioneer (RFD) to destroy the rifle.
Its crazy - magazines on their own make ~£100 the complete rifles makes £15-£25.
Modifying the magazine for 'upside down use' is not difficult.
A bit of cutting the tin-work and rotating the catch and job done.
A BSA Sportsman No7 Magazine, Vs a standard BSA Sportsman magazine.
PM sent DaveN
Dave,
Good to see you back my friend.
PM sent RogQuote:
Originally Posted by Roger Payne
Dr. Payne, I was one of those who received one of your Kits. It is good to see you are still around! I have been away from the Enfield rifle scene for a while. Deployments, Seabees, jeeps and black powder arms seduced me away. I see I missed the passing of John Sukey. Dang!
Have not yet found the tooling but I think I still have it........somewhere. I'll keep looking.;)
If no luck let me know.
I had one or two spares ...
cheers,
Roger: we must compare sheds (tm) and garages some time :-)##
Anyone still here?
We're all still here...what's up?Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN
Wrote a huge comment and some how i had gotten logged out?
So let me just say “Getting old isn’t for Wimps” my dad used to say.
Lots of us there, I'm older than you. Anyway, we're still here.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveN
Its a time since I last checked in - good to see its still going.
A long time ago I picked up an ersatz Nr 7 Trainer -converted by a naughty boy and his son? in Birmingham (I think they both got 7 years). It is a lovely bit of kit - sleeved Nr 4 - but the magezine didnt have the 5 round conversion mag. I shaped a magezine follower that drops the fired round back into the Mag and also bought a 5 round mazine(similar but not a BSA one) to try a mag conversion.
I've just decided to give it a try but before I do:-
Anyone any idea if there is any chance of picking up a genuine BSA 5 5 round mag?
Any other ideas/suggestions?
I've also paired it up with 4T spare butt/iron and scope sights - in order to shoot almost any combnation. A real pleasure to shoot.
Regards
John
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Originally Posted by Gnr527
Yes - every chance.
Our local gun auction (every couple of months or so) has the BSA Sportsman 5 rifles at virtually every auction, I have bought many of them removed the magazine and left the rifle there and asked them to scrap them. I've then either modified the magazine (you need to turn it upside down and move the catch) or sell them as 'is' on ebay. Drop me a message and I'll give you more details.
Next auction is 27th Feb but although they do have a few BSA .22rf bolt action rifles non are listed as the 'Sportsman 5' (there is a Sportsman 15, but that is not the same magazine).
Hi Alan
Sorry this is on Forum
My Desktop has gone AWOL
I'll reply to you in a day or so
Regards
John
What sort of shape are these rifles in generally? BSA made some very nice .22s. We have an importer here who regularly gets large lots of retired sporting rifles from Sweden. Pity nothing similar can be arranged from the UK, or could it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan de Enfield
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Originally Posted by Surpmil
There are normally around 700+ lots, every couple of months. Around 50% will be firearms of various types, the rest will be 'firearm components', ammunition, books and miscellaneous.
Prices for 'field grade' guns will be generally low - particularly 12b single barrel shotguns where they are often unable to get a £1 bid and bunch the lots together until they get a bid.
'Tidy' Lee Enfields make lower prices than I see quoted in the US.
BSA Sportsman 5 rifles (complete) make ~£20. The magazines alone sell on ebay for ~£100
I picked up my 'Poachers folding 410' for ~£20 (picture below)
Collectors items (boxed pairs of pistols, Canon, etc) make lots of money.
Here is a catalogue of the last auction showing the type and range of stuff sold.
Scotarms
In the description :
ASF = Action, Stock and Forend (could be missing other parts)
RFD = Registered Firearms Dealer cannot be bought by a private indvidual (normally means something wrong with it out of proof)
Section 1 (S1) = A rifle and can only be bought by someone with a section 1 endorsement on their licence
Section 5 (S5) = Various categories of Section 5 (normally guns or ammunition that are restricted usage and you need a section 5 endorsement on your licence)
SGC (SG) = Shotgun
If there is no FAA category anyone can buy it.
An RFD can buy anything they are licenced to buy.
I'm sure that an approach could be made to an RFD to buy 'job-lots' and arrange for them to be shipped to the US
That's a quality piece by the look of it; nice that you haven't over-cleaned the stock as well. 28" bbl.? That's slightly surprising in a "poacher's gun". I see some of the BSA Sportsmen .22's folded in a similar way.
And who couldn't love a face like that? :D
Sadly, we all have our problems, I'm still looking for a rifle to go with my magazine!
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Originally Posted by Surpmil
Yes he was 'one of a kind' - sadly missed.
The barrel is actually 30".
Minimum legal barrel length is 24" but maybe it was longer to help with keeping the load pattern together - there are a lot of 'holes' in a 410 pattern at around 25 yards.