We have a M91 Cav. Carb. The bolt, screw?, that holds the swing out bayonet to the barrel is missing. Anyone know where I can find one?
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We have a M91 Cav. Carb. The bolt, screw?, that holds the swing out bayonet to the barrel is missing. Anyone know where I can find one?
Try Springfield Sporters or Numrich. Some of the other forumers know of a couple of other sources, maybe they'll chime in.
But the real drama is that there's at least nine variations of bayonet attaching hardware for the folding bayonet models!
So, this is a bit weird, but I'm Paulie's son and I thought I'd register on here to get to the bottom of another Carcano related quest... but, since I spotted this thread I'll add a bit more information in hopes of finding the parts we need for our Cav Carbine.
It's a 91/38 Cavalry Carbine in 6.5, it's missing the screw, spring and little button thingy that allows the spike bayonet to fold out and in... was missing when we bought it, though it did have the bayonet itself that we still have. It's also missing the top handguard. Those seem to be pretty tough to come by as well, so I figured we could just cut down one of the NOS M38 Handguards Liberty Tree Collectors has up on their site. I'm thinking it'll fit well enough, it's got the cut out for the simple V-notch rear sight and all.
Here's a picture of the carbine in question with our two other Carcanos:
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/g...Picture205.jpg
Can't help with the part, but love the pic, your collection is just like my trio.
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I see your long rifle has 2 rear sling loops. Ours only came with the lower one, which is missing. Ours also has an unusual curved buttstock and plate, not sure why.
I love that long rifle. Have yet to see one around there that isn't rusted out.
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Originally Posted by Paulie Lugnuts
Probably a very early rifle.
The upside for your bayonet screw is that the M38 carbine doesn't have the wide range of possiblities that the earlier versions do. Where to find one? That's another drama.
Could be an early one, haven't found a date on it anywhere. As far as the bayonet bolt(?), we may have to borrow one and have a copy made. Anyone have a loaner?
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...YONET&_sacat=0
There currently are two on e-bay .
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Originally Posted by Paulie Lugnuts
Your long rifle is not a Carcano, it is a Vetterli M1870/87/15. It was originally the Italian M1870, a single shot rifle of 10.35×47mmR caliber. Then, in 1887 it was converted to a repeater of the same caliber and after that in 1915, with the emergency of WW1, it was converted to Italian 6.5mm caliber with a new magazine and a lined bore in the new caliber.
They are not recommended for shooting due to the minimal locking lugs on the primitive bolt and the ability of the barrel liner to come loose. Even in WW1, they were issued only to rear echelon troops who were rarely expected to fire their weapons but might need to when an emergency came up.
If it's like the one in the photo above then it's for dang sure not a Vetterli!Quote:
Originally Posted by gew8805
Well, dang..... jmoore, thank you for straightening out my dis-informative post, my apologies to all. Yes, it is a Carcano with what appears to be a modified butt. I was in a hurry (apparently to hear myself talk:red face: ) and should have at least glanced at the bolt and rear sight. As Roseanne Rosanadana said "Never mind".Quote:
Originally Posted by jmoore
Ah, good memories.Quote:
Originally Posted by gew8805
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I have a very late cavalry carbine, no date or markings on the receiver, just L franci over Brescia under the rear of the receiver. I am missing the underfolding bayonet completely. When I search, I find the removable folding one... Any better terms I could use, or does anyone have any idea where to look?
Thanks,
Jesse
Ebay has them periodically. There might be on on there now, not sure if it finished or not. They are not that common as they are semi-permanently attached to the rifles.
A bit of a "Necro Thread" here but I felt it was worth "resurrecting" to get the word out on this discovery. I have actually just found a fellow selling reproductions of the rare-as-hen's-teeth "Screw, Spring and Plunger" assembly for the M91 and M91/30 Carcano Cavalry Carbines that keeps and folds the Integral Spike Bayonet. The Repro Parts can be found Here. These bits seem to be often missing and are nearly impossible to find. That someone is making reproductions is a bit of a boon for Carcano Collectors! I hope others find these bits useful in restoring their own pieces!
Also, in reply to the above, I'm afraid you are mistaken. The rifle we have is an M91 Carcano Long Rifle that has a strangely modified Buttplate and the handguard off of one of the rarer early Carcano Carbines. It is not a Vetterli-Carcano.Quote:
Originally Posted by gew8805
EDIT: Oops... I see the Carcano/Vetterli-Carcano issue was sorted... didn't noticed the thread went onto a second page there.