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12-241 Garand Picture of the Day -Army Maneuvers, Ft. Houston, Texas 1939
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A nice 1905 scabbard in the bottom pic??
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Modified M1905 scabbard, belt hooks added.
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Originally Posted by
Tom in N.J.
Modified M1905 scabbard, belt hooks added.
what about. the gas trap?
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What happened to photography like this? Spectacular!
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Gas trap goes without saying but yes and there's dozens of them. The bayonets issued have to date mostly been pictured as M1910 canvas. I couldn't tell about the belt hooks added.
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I don't know how he could see his target with the brim of his hat like that.
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The added belt hooks on the M1905 leather scabbard are attached to the long leather sleeve added to the top end of the scabbard body. The long leather is the 'Third type' modification.
Attachment 36531
Photo from Bayonet Points #43 and used by permission of bayonetman
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Still a fairily scarce issue item I should think. I've only ever seen M1910 scabbards in those pics. Frightening to think how much they sell for now. The campain hat's clear of his sight. It doesn't take much to see the sights. My helmet cover used to have a hole in it from the FN rear sight. It would bang on it every shot, it was that close.
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I wonder what Army unit that is. My Grandfather joined the Army in 42 at Ft. Sam Houston. He was in the 2nd ID, 23rd IR. I don't see any patches on these guys. Funny thing is, there is a story going around that Colonel Fuller, who was commanding the 23rd IR, took them to Europe with the main battle rifle being the 03. No garands. I guess he was relieved early on in Normandy. Then J.B.Lovless took over. This story about the 03's was from a book, I forget which one. I can get the source if you'd like. But a few of the guys on the Friends of 2nd ID site were telling me this. I'm not sure if it's all true, but it's interesting that these guys are from Ft. Sam Houston, 3 years earlier and have Garands. It'd be neat to know the outfit it is.
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The first units at Ft. Sam Houston to be authorized issue of M1 rifles (FY 1936) were one battalion of the 9th Inf. (369 rifles) and one battalion of the 23rd Inf. (369 rifles).The first complete unit to be issued the new rifles was the 29th Inf. Regt. (1741 rifles), two battalions at Ft. Benning, one battalion at Ft. Sill. ( NOT the 29th INF. DIVISION. as reported in some publications. 29th Inf Div. was a National Guard unit prior to the war. Blue & Grey, MD and VA)
The regimental unit insignia on the hat looks more like the 9th Inf. Regt than the 23rd.
Source for this information (for all you non-believers out there); Third indorcement to AGO letter to the Chiel of Ordnance. December 21,1936, order of priority in issue of first 3370 semi-automatic rifles. note they were assigned priority prior to manufacture.
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Can I ask for your source? I would like to tell the guys on the 2ID website. I wonder if it was possible for a Colonel to take away the Garands and go back to the 03. I'll find the book source that said they did this. Give me a bit.
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An officer of the rank of colonel would be a regimental commander, he may have changed which battalion had the new rifles.
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Yeah, his name was Colonel Fuller and was relieved by JB Lovless in Theater. Early on. I forget what day. I think in June yet. Like late June. Or was it early July. It's in my division book. But yes, I understand that would be the commander of the whole regiment. What I was saying is I wonder if it's possible that he had whatever battalion had the Garands, give them up at some point, and go back to the 03's for gearing up for the war.
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If Col. Fuller did that, you can see why he was relieved... it doesn't pay to **** off a gereral...
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The book where this was stated that Fuller made the whole regiment use O3's was in: John C. McManus' ALAMO IN THE ARDENNES.
I haven't read it though. I guess I should.
