Lee Enfield No. 2 Trainer Need HELP !

Hello , need some input from all you Enfield experts ! I have a No.2 BSA Enfield that I have questions about . First , what exactly do I have ( year , country used) ? It has some odd features. It has the magazine cut-off and rear volley site but the rear site protector has been removed. Secondly what do I feed it ? I have tried chambering both .22 long rifle and .22 shorts but they won't go. The bullet will fit into the chamber but the cartridge stops when the casing meets the chamber. Finally what is the gun worth ? See attached photos. Appreciate any input , thanks !

You may have a blown case stuck in the chamber.

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Originally Posted by Bindi2

You may have a blown case stuck in the chamber.

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Bindi has got to be right on this one. Can't think of what else it could be?? Take a magnifying glass and carefully look at the chamber to see if there are the remains of a fired shell. It should be visible and if this is the case sell it to me rather than have the frustration of trying to fix this...JUST KIDDING.....

Could possibly be a burr on the edge of the chamber caused by dry firing, but I've not seen this problem with a No.2 before.

It seems that if an entire case were stuck, inserting a bullet would be difficult and would get stuck itself. Localized burr seems more likely, but only because the bullet will enter the chamber- likely with a small amount of damage. The brass case is hard enough to stop further forward motion.

My own Sht MkIV, is very fussy at times and after a box of 50 or so rounds it is hard to chamber but its mostly down to a build up of the lube from the bullet, once the chamber has good clean its fine.

kirbodog, is there a date on the rifle?

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Originally Posted by jmoore

Could possibly be a burr on the edge of the chamber caused by dry firing, but I've not seen this problem with a No.2 before.

It seems that if an entire case were stuck, inserting a bullet would be difficult and would get stuck itself. Localized burr seems more likely, but only because the bullet will enter the chamber- likely with a small amount of damage. The brass case is hard enough to stop further forward motion.

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Thanks for the suggestion ! I took a closer look at the chamber and discovered a small dent in the chamber throat at the 5 o'clock position. Looks like the bullet clears the dent but the case won't . Any suggestions on a quick fix ? Thanks again !

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Originally Posted by bigduke6

My own Sht MkIV, is very fussy at times and after a box of 50 or so rounds it is hard to chamber but its mostly down to a build up of the lube from the bullet, once the chamber has good clean its fine.

kirbodog, is there a date on the rifle?

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This is the odd part ; the only thing stamped on the pistol grip area is BSA. There are no visible dates on the rifle but plenty of proof marks. I'm not an Enfield expert but the research I have done seems to indicate that these No.2 's with the barrel inserts were converted in the 1920's . Proof of it's early WW1 vintage is the presence of the magazine cut - off which apparently were discontinued mid-war . Any member input on this rifles history would be greatly appreciated .

What type of .22 ammo have you found best in your Sht Mk IV ?

Mine like standard velocity ammo. Look under the rear hand guard for the date of conversion. Yes it's probably the twenties. I did have one from the fifties. The barrel was made solid not sleeved and a sunkorite finish of course. It shot very well with any kind of ammo.


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Originally Posted by kirbodog

Thanks for the suggestion ! I took a closer look at the chamber and discovered a small dent in the chamber throat at the 5 o'clock position. Looks like the bullet clears the dent but the case won't . Any suggestions on a quick fix ? Thanks again !

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Don't try any "quick fix", any gunsmith will be able to ream it out or lap it out, unless you have very specific gear and skills you'll do more harm than good mucking about with the chamber. For what it's worth, I would once again clean thoroughly with a bronze brush because that dent would have to be raised in the bore to foul the bullet, and I can't see how that could happen... could it be very well hardened and stuck crud, or a piece of a case?

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Originally Posted by kirbodog

Thanks for the suggestion ! I took a closer look at the chamber and discovered a small dent in the chamber throat at the 5 o'clock position. Looks like the bullet clears the dent but the case won't . Any suggestions on a quick fix ? Thanks again !

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It COULD be reamed out but that's not the ideal solution. I have something called a chamber ironing tool which pushes the metal back without removing any meat. I got it years ago from Brownell's. Very handy esp. if you like old .22s.

Let me see if I can find a current link...

ETA: Well that was easy! A rare instance of a search engine producing the exact link needed on the first go.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=8...R-IRONING-TOOL


ETA: BTW, one nice feature not mentioned is the small flat along one side of the tool that enables you to insert the iron as deep as it needs to go on the undamaged portion of the chamber mouth. Then twist. It may take a few repititions but there's very little danger of doing damage when using the supplied handle. No hammers required! And usually no other post-ironing burr clean-up required, unless the damage was substantial.

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Originally Posted by jmoore

It COULD be reamed out but that's not the ideal solution. I have something called a chamber ironing tool which pushes the metal back without removing any meat. I got it years ago from Brownell's. Very handy esp. if you like old .22s.

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Very useful tip. Another trip to milsurps with knowlege gained. Thanks!

Thanks for all the help guys ! Took the rifle to my trusted gunsmith and he had the chamber fixed up in ten minutes ! ( a no charge job to boot ! ) . The chamber reaming tool worked really slick and a quick trip to the range proved to be quite satisfying.