Whats the fair price for a good K31 or 1911?
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Whats the fair price for a good K31 or 1911?
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Over here: 150 to 350, depending on the appearance. Like the Swedes, they are generally well-maintained, "low-mileage" and excellent shooters. An even better bargain for shooting quality than the Swedes. The downside is that a diopter set will probably cost you more than the rifle! Having shot both long and short rifles, I actually prefer my G96/11 to the K31. It is more comfortable to hold, has a longer sight radius, and the felt (subjective!) recoil is noticeably lower. And, of course, it had a price at the bottom end of the range mentioned above!
I hope to be able to let you know tomarrow. A Swiss rifle is on my short list of sought items at my local fun show.
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Please let me know, I thinking of getting one for myself.
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I would say anywhere between $250 and $400 fore either. I was very lucky and got both toward the bottom of that range, the K31 for a bit less but I bought that off a private individual. They are getting harder to find and the price is starting to go up as more people like yourself learn about them and decide they want one. It will probably be difficult to find a K11 and the K31's will most likely be in the $325 and up range at either a gun show or a gun shop. My local dealer has one at $525 right now. I think he's nuts but it is what it is. It does have the bayonet which makes it slightly more realistic but also has a busted up end on the forestock where someone tried to remove something in a manner they shouldn't have.
Things to look for: K31's with walnut stocks generally look a lot better than the birch stocked ones. They seem to have taken the abuse of the butt stock a lot better and the dings that are there are not as obvious. They are also usually a bit more expensive than the birch. All numbers should match, if they don't pass. Even the magazine. Unless of course the price is very good and you just want it for shooting. There are quite a few out there with mis-matched magazines but the majority all match. Bayonets if available, will have the same serial number as the rifle but this is not critical as few come with the bayonet. Original slings will be marked with the date and manufacturer along with the Swiss emblem. If the stock looks really nice, it's probably been refinished, there will be a Swiss emblem on the butt stock of a K31, I believe they are somewhere else on the K11 but without looking not sure where. These emblems should be pretty deep, if faint or missing, it's been sanded. The birch stocked ones will often have badly abused butt stocks. Something about them leaving them outside their doors, them freezing to the ground and then them kicking them loose when they come back outside. It does not affect the function of the rifle but does tend to make them look bad.
I have an example of all three posted under the heading "My Swiss Trio" on page two or three of this forum.
No luck at the fun show. I think Samco may still have some listed. Suppose I will have to order one if so.
Thanks for looking.
wideners has K31 for about $350, there is not hand pick thou. I guess I'm going to go with that.
I let an Enfield No 5 ding my K31 budget since there were no Swiss rifles at the show . See my post in the Enfield section if you care to. My Swiss rifle and M39 Finn search has been completely fruitless but a No 5 is a pretty good consolation prize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kli
Be careful with the Samco rifles. I believe they are the ones selling "cracked stock" rifles. And no one seems to be able to define what cracked stock means exactly. I would ask before purchasing. I know they used to have other rifles but sold out of them and the cracked stock rifles are the ones that are left.
I was wondering about that Crecked stock bit. Went back to the gunshow today> Two Swiss 1911s spotted. One on a dealer table highly Bubbad (most of the wood missing) and labled French Sniper. The other a walk in very nice but sans wood as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
Without wood, pretty much worthless to us guys. Almost impossible to restore from what I've heard, just no spare parts out there.
"French Sniper" Did you correct him or just chuckle quietly to yourself?
You confirmed my instincts on the restoration which is why I passed. Just chuckled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243
There are enough first-class Swiss rifles around that you need not waste one second looking at Bubba jobs or cracked stocks.
Simpson's Ltd is a great place to find Swiss rifles. They are currently running a special on the 1911 series rifles.
Specials Simpson Ltd. - Collectors Firearms
I paid $330 for mine :)https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...00_33631-1.jpg
Gun show near Philly today I ran into a few Swiss rifles. A drilled and tapped 1911 long rifle was $350. A walnut stocked K31 was $350, a 96/11 was $450. Local gun shop still has a beech stocked K31 for $325.
Milsurps are a bit few and far between here abouts. Usually a few on tables at shows. The walkins is where I have the most success. I am sure the dealers hate to see me coming as I am willing to pay a bit above pawn shop prices. The Swiss and Finnish rifles are about very rare. Garands and Carbines are the only thing seen with ant regularity. CMP resellers. I passed on a walkin Sweede carbine due to lack of knowlege at $350. Saw it later on a dealer's table. He probably bought it for $200 and had it marked at $575. A lack of knowlege might have cost me on that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn243