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I almost never see these for sale. This one looks particularly clean. I can think of several reasons to buy it #1 Its a Colt. #2 Its unique in that its US made for Britain. #3 It covers British WWI pistol none of which I have. In this condition it should only go up in value (not that I've ever sold anything).
Opinions? WW1 Era Colt Eley in 455 Caliber, Original : Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com
sorry forgot the link
Which one?
This?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=332272432
Nice but it's been reamed out to .45 Colt, so it's not altogether unmolested. Should still work with .455 if the rim seats for the .45 Colt aren't too big.
Yea that one. The way I read it its still .455. I'll try to find out for sure.
Owner says its all original!
Wonder what this had to do with the pistol shown? A dangling participle at best.
New Service revolvers were supplied to British Empire and Canadian forces during World War I, and they continued to see official service with US (chambered for 45 caliber) until the end of World War II.
That's easy. Just look at the photo of the rear end of the cylinder. Don't rely on the tall tales of the seller!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancho113
You are talking about the ridges in the bores that look about one inch down?? Those bores are normally smooth all the way right?
The cylinder throat has been moved forward. And there's small recesses at the rear end to accommodate the thicker .45 Colt round's rim.
Ended up "winning" the auction. Had pre-bid and then went out of town. Oh we'll... But I can return it if its not completely original. So I've been looking for cylinder diameter specs to be able to measure it when it gets here. No luck yet. Any clues where such numbers might be?? And, is that what I need? I'm still not 100% sure on "throat moved forward". Are you talking about the part of the cyl. Where the shell case slides into the cyl?
Also thanks for your input already. Sorry for not getting back sooner. Typing on cell ph keyboards sucks
In the cylinder bores you have from front to rear:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rancho113
1. Throat (the smallest diameter that should be near to the bullet diameter)
2. Bevel or step between throat and chamber
3. Chamber (the larger diameter which is just larger than the cartridge case and is slighly longer, but not very much than the brass forward of the rim)
4.Rim recess (Or not, which would be the case for an unmodified revolver. It's the largest diameter if it exists, but isn't very deep.)
As clearly seen on the aution photos, the chamber area is rather longer than required for a .455, so the throat is short. It also shouldn't have the small rim recesses. The seller didn't hide it, so...
I understand your frustration with those ridiculous keyboards on the phone. Have about smashed my new one into tiny pieces several times!
Thanks for the explanation. Yes the photos are clear photos, but the written description and several emails through gb maintained that it is original. Even if I do end up keeping it, it comes with a lesson learned.
Been reading and reading everyday, the more I learn, the more I find out that I don't know. So I'll continue to tune in here regularly and try to keep up!
The upside is that you will probably be able to shoot both .45 Colt and .455 ammo with no dramas. That is, if the .45 Colt rim recesses are small enough to allow the .455 rims to seat on the rear of the cylinder.
I have a Colt New Service .455 Eley converted the same way. It will shoot both .455 Eley and .45 Colt out of the gun. I figure the gun was converted in the late 50's or early 60's when the gun market was flooded with surplus .455 Eley pistols. I like to shoot the shorten .45 Cowboy rounds out of the gun.
--fjruple
The simplest would be to take it to your local gunshop and say " I want a box of ammo for this , it may have been coverted to .45 LC . If it will fit I'll buy some , if not I'll take some .455 . "
Chris