This is my Canadian FAL. It was difficult getting the parts to build it. receiver is Imbel. anyone else build one?
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This is my Canadian FAL. It was difficult getting the parts to build it. receiver is Imbel. anyone else build one?
Arado, Nice job! I like the stock. I built an L1A1 on a DSA receiver (Aussie type). I had a kit from Sarco that I bought when they first arrived (80's or 90's?). The U.S. parts count was a big pain and it took about 8 mos to get the receiver from DSA. Fitting the barrel and headspacing (finding the locking shoulder of the correct dimension) took some time. I also have an early Century Arms L1a1 that has the "Made in Canada" markings. As far as I know it is an Imbel receiver and is every bit as nice as the DSA. Is your state you restricted to 5 round mags? Salt Flat
the mag restriction in my state "Ohio" is 32 rounds center fire. any more and you have a machine gun. now to find my L2A1. I know I built one. It has a 30 round mag. I put a 5 round in the Fal pictured, to lower profile.
My only question would be the butt with the brass disk. I don't remember those in Canadian service. Might be wrong, but other than that looks good.
Had to watch my American parts count very closely, and probably put more money into this than I should have, but I am happy with the way it turned out. Attachment 42138
this is the disc. it was on the stripped C1A1 rifle parts from Marstar. it is commonwealth?
Is that carrying handle correct? Looks blackish instead of brown. Nice rifle.
The carry handle is not wood. it is phenolic plastic and black. The rest of the furniture is wood.Quote:
Originally Posted by RCEMERalf
The carry handle pictured is Australian. Ours was brown- red bakelite type material. The rear swivel is incorrect and the breech block carrier should be smooth. The stock marking disc was never used. The buttplate isn't the right one, but that would explain the presence of the disc. Maybe UK buttstock? Pre black? Your mag catch looks to be solid and ours were stamped. That would make me suspect the hold open device too.
I wouldn't worry about any of it as it looks just mint. You have all the hard to find parts, after all.
I got into building FAL's. I tried to make a representable example of types. The C1A1 was the most difficult to source. The easiest and best was the Stg58. these HB's were interesting. NOTE, I built my fals years ago.
Like I said Gary, they're all gorgeous. I'd love to carry any of them.
https://www.milsurps.com/attachment....9&d=1365973423Quote:
Originally Posted by arado
This posses an interesting question.... one that surprises me... IF this is original.
1.) just to confirm the butt and the brass disk are original?
2.) dose the butt have a serial number stamped on it? of not,
3.) is there an original serial number on the lower, or was that a separate part to the butt when you got it?
I ask because the but disk is from a New Zealand Air Force Squadron SQN 41, rack number 073.
As far as I know the Air Force didn't have any FN C1 Rifles. they were all Australian L1A1 rifles.
Interesting.
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The Carrying handle is a New Zealand pattern plastic carrying handle.
Top Left: Australian Plastic Carrying Handles
Top Right: New Zealand Pattern Plastic Carrying Handles
Bottom Left: Canadian Plastic Carrying Handles
Center Bottom: British
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...ndles_sm-1.jpg
Thank you for the input. I had/ have a mix of parts. The lower receiver was made by Infield. I built 5 inch pattern fals.I bought rifle part kits . There were no C1a1 kits then or now. I used what I had to complete build. I may have the original Canadian butt stock. I remember getting it with the wood parts. i'll check internet pictures then look at my stocks. most are black plastic.
I checked my parts. I found this wood buttstock. Is it C1A1? If so I will install to replace the NZ. thanks,
No, that is more like the metric type. The sling swivels on ours were like the late ones on the #4 rifles too. I'd say leave the butt you have on there as it's so nice. Not many will catch it. If I can find pics, I'll send them. I'm pretty sure they're here somewhere though because there's a couple Canadian collectors have shown their stuff on this forum...
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You mean bottom right...C1 top, C2 bottom...they don't quite look right, but I guess...Quote:
Originally Posted by nzl1a1collector
this isnt the right one. i think the one you have on is the correct one except for the disc .Quote:
Originally Posted by arado
i have a C1A1 buttstock to sell if you are interested .
I will buy it. leave me a pm on how much and where. garyQuote:
Originally Posted by sandstorm
I imagine you think me being picky, specially after he has said he'll buy yours, but the one with the disc isn't even nearly correct. The buttplate is different by a mile and the sling swivel is completely wrong. The swivel on ours was inset like the Lee Enfield. This one has a small round swivel on a base that's not even remotely the same. The inlet is different too. It's very nice though...Quote:
Originally Posted by sandstorm
I agree with BAR. All of the zillions of UK, Lithgows and fewer CAL L1A1's and L2's I dealt with in the UK, Australia and NZ were pretty-well to the UK spec that I'd grown up with.
The RNZAF (?) butt marking disc also looks like a bit of a red herring too. We serviced the RNZAF stuff (was it Ohakea, near Hamilton.....? Someone correct me please....) and their newly issued in 1969 L1A1's and a couple of A2's were all Lithgow/UK spec
Theres also a RAF 41 Sqn too but Sqns were never issued rifles, they were all held in the station armoury so its unlikely they would have had a marking disc.