Hello,
any idea what was the holster for Russian Colt 1911???
K31/43
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Hello,
any idea what was the holster for Russian Colt 1911???
K31/43
As frugal as the Russians were, I would assume the T33 Tokarev holster. If it fit, I doubt if they would bother re-engineering it.
Would be a little difficult using said in WWI and the following years of turmoil. 50,000 pistols shipped. Most still unaccounted for. The real question is whether they're still warehoused...Quote:
Originally Posted by imarangemaster
Seems indeed to be losted in the turmoil.
Losted but not for everyone I suppose...
All of them have holster wear marking so I suppose they were into holster.
I'll try the T-33 holster.
The British Colt .455 was into specific holster made in UK ( different holsters exist)
Perhaps the Russian also made a holster for the pistol.
K31/43
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Originally Posted by K31/43
All? You've seen more than one? Very scarce on the other side of the Atlantic.
This one was in the contract range of Russian pistols but did not go overseas. Oddly, these unmarked pistols have been known to be "enhanced" to look like one of the pistols sent to support the WWI Russian efforts to enhance collector appeal.
https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...stuff130-1.jpg
Regardless, it would be interesting to know if there WAS an official Russian or Soviet holster that was specific to the 1911s. Info on Russian and/or Soviet produced .45 ACP ammo (if any) would be welcomed as well!
Ah, I thought they were WW II lend lease or something. I did not know they were WW I.
ello,
i saw about 10 of them to sell.
I have only one in VG conditions at home.
I believe I can have a good contact in Russia to get infos.
I'll check that and come back to you but it can take some weeks
Regards
K31/43
There is one on sale with this kind of holster... Looks like TT-33 holster.Quote:
Originally Posted by K31/43
COLT 1911 RUSSIAN WITH FACTORY LETTER - Z39376 - United States
No, the holster for the TT33 would not have been used in WW1. The TT33 didn't come around till 1933. I would think the pistols would have been used by Russian Calvary more then anything else as they could not get the Mauser broom handle anymore. Cossack's charging with pistol in one hand and a saber in the other. So a holster for use on horse back????? I wonder if many were used before the revolution started as they were made starting in 1916 and of course ended in 1917. But a real one will be marked on the left side of the frame with a cyrillic inscription. Made as a commercial gun but with random serial numbering. Total guessed as being 51,000 made.
This is the one we had in the UK recently
Attachment 101155Attachment 101156Attachment 101157Attachment 101158
Just a guess, but I would think the Cossack Cavalry would have still have had S&W revolvers up through WW1 and many surfaced during WW2. The S&W Russian in 44 cal was designed as a cavalry pistol with the extended spur to the rear of the trigger guard.
the Russians bought quite a few 1st, 2nd and 3rd model variations from S&W plus the copies that were made.
Photo shows my S&W Uberti 44 Russian, doubt the Russians had pearl grips except for high ranks or presentation Attachment 101164
I do agree with you about the S&W in .44 Russian. I do think that the increase recruitment of new replacements for the Calvary made it a requirement for the new pistol. German machineguns and artillery made cannon fodder out of many of the Russian Calvary. Standard sidearm for the infantry was the Nagant pistol as well as all the other branch's.