What exactly do I have here?...No. 4 (T) pads

I purchased these pads several years ago, don't remember from where. They were sold as original pads to me. I recently remembered I have them and when I took them out and compared them to my repro pads and then attempted to mount them on my DP rifle for fit, none of the mounting holes line up, particularly on the rear pad. The holes are angled the opposite direction of those on the receiver and repro pads.

Were all pads and receivers drilled identically? Are these even originals? I didn't pay a great amount of cash for them so no real loss, but wanted some expert input.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...0_070254-1.jpg
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Israeli, I think.

I think it'd be fair to say in the politest possible way that they are about as real as a 9 dollar note!

Here's another thread with similar pads displayed in a couple of "less greasy" photos, courtesy of read6737:

No 4 Sniper Identification

I'm pretty sure JM is right. Many years ago I bought several barrelled actions bearing these pads. They came out of Parker Hale's basement 'tunnel' & the story was that they'd come in from Israel & were examples of No 4 T's the Israeli's had set up themselves. The receivers on mine bore Istraeli acceptance marks so it all seemed to fit. I no longer have any, but they crop up from time to time. I think we have had a number of threads dealing with the scopes they also made for these rifles.....

ATB

I thought that too DRP but didn't the Israeli rifles/pads have a couple of top-down accurate locating pins for the front pad which don't seem to be visible on these. Just my 2c.s worth

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

I thought that too DRP but didn't the Israeli rifles/pads have a couple of top-down accurate locating pins for the front pad which don't seem to be visible on these. Just my 2c.s worth

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There are two small pin holes on the rear, but none on the front.

'Fraid it's a long time ago now PL & I can't honestly remember for sure on all of them, but the one I completed & let our late mutual Kiwi friend have didn't so far as I can recall. Maybe the pins were a production mod in the light of experience???

Tower, I have a matching set to yours. Centre hole on the front pad is high. Holes on the rear pad are arse about.

Searching forums and the net, the Israeli explanation seems to ring true. They may not be Genuine British pads but they may still be Kosher.:o

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Originally Posted by paulseamus

Tower, I have a matching set to yours. Centre hole on the front pad is high. Holes on the rear pad are arse about.

Searching forums and the net, the Israeli explanation seems to ring true. They may not be Genuine British pads but they may still be Kosher.:o

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So now to find an israeli sniper rifle.

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Originally Posted by Peter Laidler

I thought that too DRP but didn't the Israeli rifles/pads have a couple of top-down accurate locating pins for the front pad which don't seem to be visible on these. Just my 2c.s worth

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Aren't they the same as the ones in "armorers perspective"

Another oddity.

https://www.milsurps.com/images/impo...c435af20-1.jpg

So it would seem the Israelis didn't machine the bearing surfaces pads after they were fitted to the rifle.