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Well, almost...the stock should be an SA/EMcF, and the trigger guard should probably be forged...the windage knob should have a lock bar...maybe I'm wrong though. What did you mean by correct? It IS a nice looking rifle though, from what we can see.
Maybe he meant 1953?
Well, THAT would be different. Now, if he'll only come back with more pics...or just come back...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarge1998
FWIW, there's no dash in M1
Welcome :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :thdown::thdown:
This is why I posted my M-1 Garand, i wanted to find out all the information I could. I purchased the weapon based on the fact that it was a 1943 Springfield era Grand. From the information you supplied, I am not sure that is true.
M1, Garand Inventory of Weapons and Parts
M1 Garand, Springfield, Serial # 1854946, Manufactured July 1943
Barrel P (proof marks), 3-S-A-3-44 Springfield Armory
Receiver b 8 B with diamond (inspection stamps), D 28291 29 Springfield Armory
Serial # 1854946
Butt Plate Type 2 with Trap Door Springfield Armory
Stock Furrule Type 2/3rd Springfield Armory
Front Handguard Liner Springfield Armory
Rear Handguard Band Type 3 no groove Springfield Armory
Rear Sight Type 2 Springfield Armory
Windage Knob Type 2 Springfield Armory
Elevation knob and pinion Type 2 Springfield Armory
Front Sight Type 2 Springfield Armory
Bolt Flat D28287-12SA, S-04 with diamond (Heat Treat #) Springfield Armory
Extractor
Firing Pin
Operating Rod Type 6A D35382 9 SA Springfield Armory
Follower Rod Type 5 Springfield Armory
Operating Rod Catch Assy Type 2 Springfield Armory
Follower Arm Type 4 Springfield Armory
Follower Arm Pin Springfield Armory
Follower Type 1 11 Springfield Armory
Bullet Guide Type 2 Springfield Armory
Trigger Assembly Type 1 D28290-12-SA (drawing #) Springfield Armory
Trigger Guard Type 1 Springfield Armory
Trigger Type 2 Springfield Armory
Hammer (1944-1945) C46008-7 SA (drawing #) Springfield Armory
Hammer Spring Plunger Unknown
Safety Type 3 SA 11 Springfield Armory
Gas Cylinder Assy Type 2C Springfield Armory
Gas Cylinder Lock Type 3A Springfield Armory
Gas Cylinder Lock Screw Type 3 Springfield Armory
Magazine Catch
Disconnector
Selector Switch
Stock P in a circle (front handgrip), Eagle with 3 stars (DOD) Springfield Armory
Not original stock
I am supply all of the information I have taken from the M-1 Garand.
If you can tell me any more about the Grand I would appreciate it.
Dwight Brown
kaydee
Where I FL are you?
I am in Tampa/Bradenton area
I live in The Villages, 30 miles South of Ocala and 1 hour North of Orlando, Just off of 75. Moved from California in 2004 to Lady lake and then to The Villages in 2011. Retired from the Army as a CW4 in 1988 at Fort Ord, Ca.:)
Orlando has nice 200/200 High Power program
Small group of good guys if you want to shoot her
Anyway, The receiver will be that date but the rest of the parts are a bit of a mish-mash from re-build. Doesn't take from effectiveness just isn't correct for the date mentioned. By the way, selector switch? I take it you mean safety...Magazine catch...Clip latch? I don't think your trigger guard is type one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaydee
I would like to, I have 500 rounds. The Throat gauges 0+ and the Mussel gauges 0. Not bad for a barrel dated 3-S-A-3-44. I really don't want to shoot it, but I would like to sight it in. Can you give me more information on the 200/200 range.
kaydee
kaydees@embarqmail.com:runaway:
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Snafu,
What was this all about? Welcome :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead: :thdown::thdown::
You lost me,
kaydee
Where can i find examples of the different types of Trigger guards??
kaydee
I (assume) it's because he believes we were rude to you, a first time poster, by not welcoming you before giving you our somewhat snarky opinions, we mean well. :cheers:
There are in order of issue the forged and milled, recognized by a hole at rear of guard. To improve/simplify manufacturing a new design was submitted and approved in late 43' for a stamped guard (like yours), but it probably didn't make rifle assembly until spring of 44'. There are variations of course but if you need more detail than that I'd suggest you begin assembling a library of reference material.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaydee
Very nice Garand but not 100% correct. Canfield has a great reference book on the Garand and how they were.
There are a lot of variables & options involved in sighting in the M1 (rear sight markings, battle zero vs bullseye). I can email you a pdf of a short article on zeroing from the February 1997 American Rifleman, if you would like.
Neal
That would be great. My email is kaydees@embarqmail.com
kaydee
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Thanks,
I was beginning to think this forum was something other them learning and sharing information. I am new at collecting M1 (my spell check wants to put the dash between the M and 1) Garand and the M1 Carbine. I have been all over the internet and read a lot of inputs, but some of it is confusing, but I'm learning.
I am also a retired Police Officer from California.
kaydee
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were the Type 1 trigger guards forged and the type 2 milled, or did you have Type 1 milled and forged and type 2 milled and forged?
OK I wasn't clear.
The original trigger guard is forged then milled, takes more hours of labor to complete than....
The replacement trigger guard which is stamped, that is what you have. There are only two types, milled and stamped ( for simplicity sake).
If this is your first M1 then shoot and enjoy it, you won't hurt the value. Better yet, hook up with the members Snafu suggested, better to get a hands on evaluation, it saves you from having to post about 2 dozen HQ pictures. All those confusing answers we're giving can be explained easily in a meeting at the range. Better yet if you have any problems they can spot diagnose on the range, worth an hour drive in my opinion. Someone will field strip it, make sure it's lubed correctly, make sure the parts are assembled correctly, and then you can shoot.
Good luck
Kaydee, your nomenclature & types didn't seem familiar to me. The reference I use for identifying M1 rifle parts is "Collecting the Garand II" by JC Harrison; I'm not sure what the others use.
In describing condition, I use the Civilian Marksmanship Program's list: see Rifle Sales - M1 Garand . This is a good source of information, & most US collectors have at least one rifle bought from them. It sounds to me like you have the equivalent of a "service grade" rifle: excellent barrel, mixed parts.
CMP gauges & test fires all rifles that they sell. Until you become familiar with the M1, it may be worthwhile paying a gunsmith to do a "technical inspection" before firing it (should cost < $100). Depends on whether or not you know the rifle's history.
When I visited the Villages a couple of years ago, someone told me that there was a nearby range; I never checked into it, so not sure it is so.
Neal
All newbies should go to the GCA website (The Garand Collectors Association ) and click on the Glossary of collector terminology. It's a really good reference for the jargon we use, if I say so myself (ha ha, I wrote it).
I was more a comment on the way I saw you being greeted here
http://www.cfrpc.com/disciplines/high-power-rifle.html